Rain
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Gibson were right...
Once more shopping for an acoustic tonight and after finding a guitar I thought could be interesting I went to listen to a couple of demos on YouTube.
If I were to rely strictly on what I heard, I would be tempted to believe that 99% of the people on the planet need an automated tuning device such as the one that's now standard on the 2015 Gibson line up.
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Re: Gibson were right...
2015/01/16 03:28:25
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Stay with us buddy, don't be getting any radical ideas.
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Re: Gibson were right...
2015/01/16 12:03:50
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Re: Gibson were right...
2015/01/16 12:36:43
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Re: Gibson were right...
2015/01/16 12:53:53
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Re: Gibson were right...
2015/01/16 13:06:41
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Although I can't tuna fish I can tune a guitar. BUT...I like the way the new minEtune system from Gibson allows you to store your favorite non-standard tunings and just basically click through to them when you need them. On stage this would be fab. No need for several guitars in different tunings just click and play.
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Re: Gibson were right...
2015/01/16 13:12:16
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yorolpal
Although I can't tuna fish I can tune a guitar. BUT...I like the way the new minEtune system from Gibson allows you to store your favorite non-standard tunings and just basically click through to them when you need them. On stage this would be fab. No need for several guitars in different tunings just click and play.
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Re: Gibson were right...
2015/01/16 13:18:25
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True that. And this tuning system helps allot and I would love to have something on my guitars. But I just react when people say that guitars is in tune when there is parts of the string where the tone should be lower than the fret allow. And several places where is should be higher. And on the subject. What kind of temperation you want. Everything tempereted is out of tune, just that we are use to it doesn't make it in tune. That's just my 2 cents.
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Re: Gibson were right...
2015/01/16 13:21:09
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Re: Gibson were right...
2015/01/16 14:06:24
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I think I have a fairly sensitive ear when it comes to tuning - which seems to only be getting better (or worst, since it's a pita) all the time.
All things being relative, those folks putting video demos on YouTube sometimes aren't even close to acceptable. I'm not talking about a few cents here and there.
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Re: Gibson were right...
2015/01/16 14:12:00
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The imperfections of guitar tuning have always bugged me. I hate the way that if an octave sounds perfect on the A and G strings, a 5th sounds slightly out on the same strings (e.g. if the A and G strings of an open Am sounds perfectly in tune, the A and G strings of an open C sound a little out).
Years ago I learned a tuning trick which averages out all of these imperfections from the classical guys, but for the life of me I can't remember it now. My current philosophy is to tune one string (A) with a tuning fork, then tune every string to that. It seems to work pretty well.
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Re: Gibson were right...
2015/01/16 16:05:46
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I want truetemperament frets on my guitars. But they say you have to remove the fingerboard layer and attach a new one made especially with this frets. You can even bend like before. I have never tried it tho.
For people not tuning their guitar right, I think its best to let them know and maybe tech them to tune. And explain that the bad tuning is ruining everything.
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Re: Gibson were right...
2015/01/17 14:14:51
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*Pfft...* I don't need to tune my guitar, I play RAWK!!! 
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Re: Gibson were right...
2015/01/19 09:32:26
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Blasphemy I tell you.... Blasphemy....
One of the first things you should learn how to do if you want to play a guitar, is how to properly tune one.
I would hope Gibson would offer normal tuning pegs and have the robo-tuners as an option. I wouldn't want to use them.
I really don't care if you tune using ears and intervals or some sort of electronic tuner. I prefer to use tuners because they are faster and pretty accurate. Especially if I'm recording....
EDIT: one of the big steps forward with one of my bands in the past.... little 3 piece band.... was when we bought some PA gear and I ended up buying a Conn Strobetuner..... both the bass player and myself used it to tune at the gig and we were very impressed. Never tuned by ear again.
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Re: Gibson were right...
2015/01/19 09:37:12
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I'm with you Herb. I just hope CW will provide two 24-track tape decks with a full console and have this DAW thing as an option. 
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Re: Gibson were right...
2015/01/19 09:56:18
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Kurt Cobain didn't know how to tune a guitar and it worked for him. Could work for you.
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