SEMI-Solved VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else?

Author
BlixYZ
Max Output Level: -74 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 805
  • Joined: 2010/12/31 16:45:54
  • Location: Barrington, NJ
  • Status: offline
2015/01/17 14:11:25 (permalink)

SEMI-Solved VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else?

UPDATE:  I installed 32bit version of platinum and it scans quickly and works as expected.  DISCLOSURE- I have still been primarily using 32bit X3 up until now.  It works great and I have a better plugin experience.
I promise to work harder to make the switch, but not until these endless scans stop occurring!
 
It zips through some plugins and then stops for 30 seconds on others.
I have always struggled to efficiently manage my plugins.  
My organization (including inevitable duplicates) may be the cause.  But this wasn't an issue in X3 for me.
 
Any ideas?
It's making me spend my saturday "house cleaning" my plugin folders.  
 
btw, it's not just stallling on 3rd party plugs, it's hung up on many cake plugs too!  I don't get it.
post edited by BlixYZ - 2015/01/17 15:03:29

James W
BlixYZ Recording Studio
BlixYZ Records

Audient ASP800 thru Focusrite Saffire Pro 40
Mackie Control Universal + C4
Yamaha HS50's plus Matching Sub, Tannoy 501a
Blue Baby Bottle, AT 4050, Neumann TLM 103, etc.
UA 610, Focusrite/ART/Neve 2CH.
Windows 10
#1

19 Replies Related Threads

    digimidi
    Max Output Level: -81 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 496
    • Joined: 2003/11/15 19:21:08
    • Location: Eastern part of the country
    • Status: offline
    Re: VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/17 14:14:01 (permalink)
    I wonder if this is peculiar to your computer or might be an universal thing?  I would be interested to know what other folks who have already purchased Platinum are experiencing.  Hopefully, some of them will weigh in...

    I started out with nothing and I still have most of it left... 
    http://daveowenmusic.com/
    http://fabulous52s.com/
    https://soundcloud.com/daveowenmusic

    Sonar Platinum Edition/Cakewalk by BandLab: Dell 8700 XPS i7 16GB RAM, Cyberpower laptop w/8GB RAM/i7/2GB NVidia card/Tascam US1641/Focusrite 18i6/Melodyne Studio 4/Waves Plugs (a lot)/Garritan/EWQL Symphony Silver & Fab 4 and a bunch of other stuff. Studio One 3/Magix Samplitude Pro X3 Suite/Mixcraft 8 Pro/Reaper/Acid Pro 8
    #2
    bapu
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 86000
    • Joined: 2006/11/25 21:23:28
    • Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
    • Status: offline
    Re: VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/17 14:15:47 (permalink)
    Nope. I have over 1500 and it completes rapido.
    #3
    BassDaddy
    Max Output Level: -33 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 4232
    • Joined: 2012/12/31 13:55:58
    • Location: I'm an American. From America!
    • Status: offline
    Re: VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/17 14:22:46 (permalink)
    My scan went fast. No long hangups here.

    It's Bass, not Bass.
    i7 2700K, 16GB DDR3, 2 SSD sample drives and OS drive, HDD SATAIII for projects, 2 24" monitors
    Focusrite Saffire Pro 24, Focusrite VRM Box, LAVA Lamp, SONAR Platinum 64 bit, Mackie MCU and 1 MCU XT, Akai Advance 49, Windows 10,
    Komplete 9 Ultimate, Cakewalk, Toontrack, IK, AAS, XLN, UVI, Air Music Tech, Waves Factory, Sample Tek and Sonivox VSTi's. Overloud, T-Racks, Audio Damage, D16, Nomad Factory, Waves Gold FX 
    #4
    digimidi
    Max Output Level: -81 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 496
    • Joined: 2003/11/15 19:21:08
    • Location: Eastern part of the country
    • Status: offline
    Re: VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/17 14:22:48 (permalink)
    bapu
    Nope. I have over 1500 and it completes rapido.


    That's encouraging!

    I started out with nothing and I still have most of it left... 
    http://daveowenmusic.com/
    http://fabulous52s.com/
    https://soundcloud.com/daveowenmusic

    Sonar Platinum Edition/Cakewalk by BandLab: Dell 8700 XPS i7 16GB RAM, Cyberpower laptop w/8GB RAM/i7/2GB NVidia card/Tascam US1641/Focusrite 18i6/Melodyne Studio 4/Waves Plugs (a lot)/Garritan/EWQL Symphony Silver & Fab 4 and a bunch of other stuff. Studio One 3/Magix Samplitude Pro X3 Suite/Mixcraft 8 Pro/Reaper/Acid Pro 8
    #5
    BlixYZ
    Max Output Level: -74 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 805
    • Joined: 2010/12/31 16:45:54
    • Location: Barrington, NJ
    • Status: offline
    Re: VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/17 14:33:08 (permalink)
    my platinum takes about 30 seconds to lauch too.
    Hm.
    poopey.
    Ima defrag, reboot, and check back in wit ch'all.  

    James W
    BlixYZ Recording Studio
    BlixYZ Records

    Audient ASP800 thru Focusrite Saffire Pro 40
    Mackie Control Universal + C4
    Yamaha HS50's plus Matching Sub, Tannoy 501a
    Blue Baby Bottle, AT 4050, Neumann TLM 103, etc.
    UA 610, Focusrite/ART/Neve 2CH.
    Windows 10
    #6
    stickman393
    Max Output Level: -60 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1528
    • Joined: 2003/11/07 18:35:26
    • Status: offline
    Re: VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/17 14:50:19 (permalink)
    BlixYZ
    It zips through some plugins and then stops for 30 seconds on others.
     
    btw, it's not just stallling on 3rd party plugs, it's hung up on many cake plugs too!  I don't get it.



    This was an accurate description of my first run experience. Now it seems "fast" - but I guess it is not doing a full scan, just an "update" scan or something.
    #7
    Vastman
    Max Output Level: -50 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2508
    • Joined: 2006/08/30 02:49:18
    • Location: Oakland, CA
    • Status: offline
    Re: VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/17 14:57:19 (permalink)
    works fine here
     

    Dana
    We make the future... Climate Change Music
    VastMaschine:SP4L/W10/i74930K/32GB/RME/CAD E100s; The Orchestra! NOVO!/Inspire/BohemianViolin&Cello, ARK1&2,/MinimalCapriccioMaximoSoto/OE1&2, Action&Emotive/Omni2/Tril/RMX/All OrangeTree/Falcon/APE Jugs/Alpha&Bravo/BFD3 & SD3
    Gravity/DM307/AEON/DM/Damage/Diva/HZebra/Hive/Diversion/VC4/Serum/Alchemy/blablabla
    Spitfire/8DIO/SL/KH/EW/NI; Shred1&2/AGF,G,M&T Torch&Res&Ren/GD-6; Ibanez SR1200&SR505
    NOVAX FanFret Tele&Strat 
    #8
    Tané
    Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 198
    • Joined: 2003/11/08 02:48:26
    • Location: Forbes, NSW Australia
    • Status: offline
    Re: VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/17 15:16:44 (permalink)
    Works fast here
    #9
    perfectprint
    Max Output Level: -73 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 862
    • Joined: 2010/01/02 02:21:12
    • Status: offline
    Re: VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/17 15:18:55 (permalink)
    i have had two automated scanners launch on startup with an error pop up when one fails. 

    Sonar Platinum                      

    #10
    gustabo
    Max Output Level: -49.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2591
    • Joined: 2009/01/05 17:32:38
    • Status: offline
    Re: VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/17 15:33:38 (permalink)
    My initial start-up was very slow, now it's faster than X3e ever was.


    Cakewalk by Bandlab - Win10 Pro x64 - StudioCat Platinum Studio DAW - 32 GB Ram - MOTU UltraLite-mk3
    M-Audio Keystation 88ES - Akai MPD26 (hot-rodded) - Alesis DM10 - a few guitars, a few amps
    Novation Launch Control - Korg nanoKONTROL2 - PreSonus FaderPort - DAW Remote HD on iPad
    Adam A7X - Behritone C50A
    PreSonus Monitor Station v2 (controlling the mons)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/sonarusergroup/

    #11
    scook
    Forum Host
    • Total Posts : 24146
    • Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
    • Location: TX
    • Status: offline
    Re: VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/17 15:48:43 (permalink)
    In Preferences, I noticed the new 64bit SONAR had some 32bit paths in the scan path which causes it to include plug-ins I do not use in SONAR.
    #12
    Zo
    Max Output Level: -25 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 5036
    • Joined: 2008/01/25 20:49:55
    • Status: offline
    Re: VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/17 16:04:24 (permalink)
    Guyz one stupid question : how the he....do you guyz have it yet ? shops are all on pre order ?!!!

    For sale  (PM me) : transfert ilok included
    Eventide Ultrachannel make offers
    Softube Summit EQ
    IK Neve 1081 , Neve precision Comp/Lim
    EastWest Goshtwriter
    Soundforge Pro 12
     
    #13
    scook
    Forum Host
    • Total Posts : 24146
    • Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
    • Location: TX
    • Status: offline
    Re: VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/17 16:11:10 (permalink)
    from http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Coming-Soon

    * A few randomly selected SONAR X3 customers will be getting the opportunity to purchase SONAR before it goes on sale to the public. We will send emails to these customers later this week with full purchase information.

    #14
    BlixYZ
    Max Output Level: -74 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 805
    • Joined: 2010/12/31 16:45:54
    • Location: Barrington, NJ
    • Status: offline
    Re: VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/17 16:53:30 (permalink)
    Random?  i think not ;)

    James W
    BlixYZ Recording Studio
    BlixYZ Records

    Audient ASP800 thru Focusrite Saffire Pro 40
    Mackie Control Universal + C4
    Yamaha HS50's plus Matching Sub, Tannoy 501a
    Blue Baby Bottle, AT 4050, Neumann TLM 103, etc.
    UA 610, Focusrite/ART/Neve 2CH.
    Windows 10
    #15
    tlw
    Max Output Level: -49.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2567
    • Joined: 2008/10/11 22:06:32
    • Location: West Midlands, UK
    • Status: offline
    Re: VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/17 22:11:59 (permalink)
    Initial plugin scan took maybe as long as 20-30 seconds here, with plugins installed on SSD. Seemed to take longest to work its way through Jamstix (during which it - or something - rattled one of the HDDs so I guess it was checking where the Jamstix samples live).

    After that, subsequent startups seem as fast as X3.

    To be honest, I'm not exactly that bothered if startup including a full VST scan takes 20-30 seconds. I remember when it took well over a minute. Mind you, I also remember when loading Word Perfect on a Win 3.11 x286 meant you had time to make and drink a coffee then take the dog for a walk.

    Which was itself a big improvement on punched paper tape.....

    Sonar Platinum 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit, I7 3770K Ivybridge, 16GB Ram, Gigabyte Z77-D3H m/board,
    ATI 7750 graphics+ 1GB RAM, 2xIntel 520 series 220GB SSDs, 1 TB Samsung F3 + 1 TB WD HDDs, Seasonic fanless 460W psu, RME Fireface UFX, Focusrite Octopre.
    Assorted real synths, guitars, mandolins, diatonic accordions, percussion, fx and other stuff.
    #16
    stratman70
    Max Output Level: -45 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 3044
    • Joined: 2006/09/12 20:34:12
    • Location: Earth
    • Status: offline
    Re: SEMI-Solved VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/17 22:18:13 (permalink)
    Scans fast here. I have 112 VST's. Not sure if that's many or average but the scan is fine and fast and never stops or burps. Now I am talking about the initial auto scan when I launch Sonar Plat.
    1/2 of my plugs are 3rd party also, like Kontakt, Ozone, Steven Slate Drums Plat, etc.
    HTH

     
     
    #17
    stevec
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 11546
    • Joined: 2003/11/04 15:05:54
    • Location: Parkesburg, PA
    • Status: offline
    Re: SEMI-Solved VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/18 11:01:24 (permalink)
    477 plugins here, about 80/20 64bit vs. 32bit and maybe 60/40 3rd party vs. CW.   The scan time feels about the same as X3 at the moment, no slower no faster.   But then it was always relatively fast in X3 too - the "toast" method is a wonderful thing.
     

    SteveC
    https://soundcloud.com/steve-cocchi
    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=39163
     
    SONAR Platinum x64, Intel Q9300 (2.5Ghz), Asus P5N-D, Win7 x64 SP1, 8GB RAM, 1TB internal + ESATA + USB Backup HDDs, ATI Radeon HD5450 1GB RAM + dual ViewSonic VA2431wm Monitors;
    Focusrite 18i6 (ASIO);
    Komplete 9, Melodyne Studio 4, Ozone 7 Advanced, Rapture Pro, GPO5, Valhalla Plate, MJUC comp, MDynamic EQ, lots of other freebie VST plugins, synths and Kontakt libraries
     
    #18
    jimkleban
    Max Output Level: -64 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1319
    • Joined: 2008/11/09 09:42:45
    • Status: offline
    Re: SEMI-Solved VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/18 11:12:40 (permalink)
    I find that my WAVES plugins take longer than most as well as the others that depend on the DONGLE(s) in my system.
     
    Jim

    The Lamb Laid Down on MIDI
    www.lldom.com
     
    Studio Cat Custom i7 with Thunderbolt (wonderful system built and configured by our own Jim R)
    Apollo Duo (via TB)
    UAD Quad
    UAD Duo
    WIN 8.1 x64 with 32 GB Ram
    4 SSD for programs and sample libraries
    Splat (latest version)
    #19
    stevec
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 11546
    • Joined: 2003/11/04 15:05:54
    • Location: Parkesburg, PA
    • Status: offline
    Re: SEMI-Solved VERY SLOW VST scan in Platinum. Anyone else? 2015/01/18 13:52:09 (permalink)
    Could be...  I don't have any Waves or hardware dongle plugins.
     

    SteveC
    https://soundcloud.com/steve-cocchi
    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=39163
     
    SONAR Platinum x64, Intel Q9300 (2.5Ghz), Asus P5N-D, Win7 x64 SP1, 8GB RAM, 1TB internal + ESATA + USB Backup HDDs, ATI Radeon HD5450 1GB RAM + dual ViewSonic VA2431wm Monitors;
    Focusrite 18i6 (ASIO);
    Komplete 9, Melodyne Studio 4, Ozone 7 Advanced, Rapture Pro, GPO5, Valhalla Plate, MJUC comp, MDynamic EQ, lots of other freebie VST plugins, synths and Kontakt libraries
     
    #20
    Jump to:
    © 2025 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1