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Can anyone quantify what "Gloss" does?
... on PC. Is it a simple lift around 4-5KHz?
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Re: Can anyone quantify what "Gloss" does?
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Re: Can anyone quantify what "Gloss" does?
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Re: Can anyone quantify what "Gloss" does?
March 01, 15 1:05 PM
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The funny thing is I don't really hear what gloss is doing. It's not that I can't hear high frequencies, because if I give things as little as a 1dB boost with a high shelf at 12kHz, I can hear that clearly. I can sometimes hear something going on with gloss but not to the point where I'm actively enabling it in the mix because I think it improves things. Maybe I should try enabling it on the master bus, see if it's more apparent there.
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Re: Can anyone quantify what "Gloss" does?
March 01, 15 1:53 PM
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Gloss is very subtle. I cannot always hear the effect, so I don't use it. I like to know what I'm doing to the EQ.
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Re: Can anyone quantify what "Gloss" does?
March 01, 15 1:56 PM
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It is very subtle but it adds a bit of brightness.
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Re: Can anyone quantify what "Gloss" does?
March 01, 15 1:57 PM
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Thanks for the replies. The EQ lift seems to fit, but I tend to think there is something more than EQ going on, especially when modelling notable consoles of the industry. I'm wondering if there's a side-chaining of those Gloss frequencies and compressing that band.
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Re: Can anyone quantify what "Gloss" does?
March 01, 15 7:50 PM
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I can't quantify it but I use it on my Hi Hat and OH Cymbal tracks religiously. Does what the name implies, adds a subtle sheen to the high frequencies.
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Re: Can anyone quantify what "Gloss" does?
March 01, 15 8:39 PM
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I always figured it was some kind of special curve/peak/resonance and/or exciter type dealie. Sure doesn't sound like a plain old hi shelf to me.
And yeah, I definitely notice it on some things. To the point it's almost undesirable or even annoying if applied to something that does not want to be "glossed". Most times it's rather nice and I'm glad it's there.
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Re: Can anyone quantify what "Gloss" does?
March 02, 15 2:02 AM
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Beepster, Have you ever used the FX chain called HatHelper that is in the plug-in list? That is pretty handy for hats and cymbals.
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Re: Can anyone quantify what "Gloss" does?
March 02, 15 7:06 AM
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Was that in X2? If so I think I checked it out breifly a couple year ago but I haven't really used any of the included FX Chain presets. Kind of dumb of me but I was forcing myself to do everything from scratch to see how everything affected the sound. Now that I'm actually just trying to get some work done I should probably start going through all of those again to see what works with what... especially considering we have a pile of shiny new new ones.
Thanks for the tip. I've got some drums that I've only done a quick bus mix on for tracking so I'll be trying that out for sure. Cymbals and hats are one of the things I still struggle with. I find the ear fatigue sets in so quickly when honing in on those parts it's hard to nail them down.
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Re: Can anyone quantify what "Gloss" does?
March 02, 15 8:33 AM
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+1 - sheen (subtle) on high frequencies...
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Re: Can anyone quantify what "Gloss" does?
March 02, 15 9:25 AM
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This was discussed a lot back when the PC first came out. I think Cakewalk said it was mostly a bump around 1000 hz. It has been about 3 years or so, tho.
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