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2015/01/21 20:06:50 (permalink)

Midi Notes Not Playing back " SOLVED"

I opened up AD2 loaded a kit , Loaded the step sequencer with a basic 4 /4 kick clipped grooved it , played it and missing notes , So I tried playing the kick via my keyboard , same process same results. Maybe user error. 
post edited by djjhart@aol.com - 2015/01/21 20:57:03

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Re: Midi Notes Not Playing back 2015/01/21 20:11:21 (permalink)
I opened up X3 works perfect. 
 
EDIT: works perfect on new projects , only happing on some projects made with X3
 
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Re: Midi Notes Not Playing back 2015/01/21 20:33:07 (permalink)
I saw something like this too - but haven't had any time to investigate further. I have a song in progress and I'm using Superior Drummer. When I opened the song in Platinum - it was missing random MIDI notes when playing back the drums. If I "adjusted" the note in any way, it played back OK.
 
Every time I closed the song and re-opened it. The same thing would happen - but it's random notes that get dropped. Even playing back a few times - different notes would drop, or maybe the same ones.
 
I just assumed a "gremlin" got in to the file - that may or may not have to do with starting in X3e and then opening in Platinum. I couldn't be bothered troubleshooting (it was late at night) and just bounced the drums in X3e.
 
I'm pretty sure it's fine with a file created in Platinum - so maybe not worth spending much time troubleshooting...

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Re: Midi Notes Not Playing back 2015/01/21 20:44:16 (permalink)
cool thanks.. I'm going to do more investigation on it..

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Re: Midi Notes Not Playing back 2015/01/21 20:44:36 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jbraner 2015/01/21 21:49:51
Change prepare using to 999. default is 500.
I think it is under preferences - MIDI playback and recording. Not in front of Sonar now.
The AD2 samples are prob bigger hence more overhead.

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Re: Midi Notes Not Playing back 2015/01/21 20:55:49 (permalink)
microapp
Change prepare using to 999. default is 500.
I think it is under preferences - MIDI playback and recording. Not in front of Sonar now.
The AD2 samples are prob bigger hence more overhead.


perfecto ... I set my middi buffer to 500 and everything plays back perfect, it was at 250.. Thank you sir!!

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Re: Midi Notes Not Playing back 2015/01/21 21:33:53 (permalink)
dj,
Glad it worked. This drove me nuts .
I have mine at 999 w/o any problems. Many others have it at 999 as well.
If your problem re-occurs for a different project, just bump it up again.
 
Hey what buffer size do you run with the FW-1884 and the Q9550 ?
At 48Khz/24, I can get maybe 256 samples for recording. Once and a while 128.

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Re: Midi Notes Not Playing back 2015/01/21 21:49:29 (permalink)
Thanks for the tip microapp. I'm busy working midnight shifts this week - so not getting much "quality time" to play with SONAR - but I'll give it a try too.

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I usually use ASIO set at 64 or 128 samples
er - that's it I think...
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Re: Midi Notes Not Playing back 2015/01/22 07:38:52 (permalink)
microapp
Hey what buffer size do you run with the FW-1884 and the Q9550 ?
At 48Khz/24, I can get maybe 256 samples for recording. Once and a while 128.




I use my Fw-1884 only as a control surface now a days . I only needed 2 inputs and 2 outputs having issues after 8.5 . I ended up with the Roland Quad capture.

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Re: Midi Notes Not Playing back 2015/01/22 09:44:27 (permalink)
My problem is similar. I'm getting missing notes on AD2, but only when using a MIDI Humanizer plugin (it's a midi fx). I tried the solutions in this thread and I also tried upping MfxLookahead in TTSSEQ.ini, but to no avail. :(
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Re: Midi Notes Not Playing back 2015/01/22 16:18:56 (permalink)
microapp - I changed my settings from 250 ms to 999 and it works perfectly.
Thanks for the tip! I'd never really seen this problem before. Something must be a little different in Platinum because I've always gotten by with the default 250ms setting.
 
I'm using Superior Drummer BTW - so it's not just a AD issue.

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Re: Midi Notes Not Playing back 2015/01/22 16:33:29 (permalink)
John,
I just got Platinum running last night so this is preliminary but I think it is using more CPU than X3.
My current PC ( been waiting for next Sonar to upgrade) is a Core 2 Duo so it makes it easier to notice compared to I5 or I7. Never seen an issue after setting to 999 though.

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Re: Midi Notes Not Playing back 2015/01/22 17:45:33 (permalink)
Mines a i7-3770K, but I haven't paid attention to see if it's any worse  on the CPU. I don't find the CPU meters that accurate anyway.
 
Something is different though. Anyway - setting to 999 did the trick. Going up to 500 (from 250) didn't cure the problem - but 999 did. There must be some downside to this - but we'll see... ;-)

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Re: Midi Notes Not Playing back 2015/01/22 18:05:48 (permalink)
jbraner
 
 
Something is different though. Anyway - setting to 999 did the trick. Going up to 500 (from 250) didn't cure the problem - but 999 did. There must be some downside to this - but we'll see... ;-)




Im sure there must be a down side to .. something to do with timing I suppose ..

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Re: Midi Notes Not Playing back 2015/03/14 11:57:12 (permalink)
Just another "Thank you".  I too had to move up from 250ms in order to get a beat right using AD2;  I went straight to 999 but may play with settings if I can find any details on possible problems.
 
Here was the odd part for me that had me pulling my hair out for the last two days.  Using AD2, if I did a Sync play/stop with the groove selected, everything was fine.  Once I dragged the beat into a MIDI track I started having problems.  
 
Anyway, back to mixing.
 
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Re: Midi Notes Not Playing back 2015/03/14 12:36:47 (permalink)
The only downside to increasing the MIDI buffer I'm aware of is you have to wait for the length of the buffer for the transport to roll on playback/record.

Why the default is 250 I have no idea, it turns up as a problem all the time. Many versions ago it used to default to 500 if my memory isn't playing tricks.

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