Slate Digital about to start with monthly subscription .

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2015/01/22 13:24:50 (permalink)

Slate Digital about to start with monthly subscription .

 
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    Rain
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    Re: Slate Digital about to start with monthly subscription . 2015/01/22 13:36:20 (permalink)
    I can only imagine the mess when every manufacturer finally start offering subscription only... Another good reason to shy away from 3rd party developers.

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    Re: Slate Digital about to start with monthly subscription . 2015/01/22 13:36:55 (permalink)
    BUt unlike CW, you do NOT own the software after a year or set time limit, apparently, the plugs only stay active as long as you "subscribe" 

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    Re: Slate Digital about to start with monthly subscription . 2015/01/22 14:32:54 (permalink)
    Apparently this only applies to the Mix/Master subscription, so it's 'optional' for those who wish to go that route...
     
    "Now, if you own Slate Digital plugins, do not fear. We're not going to penalize you or stop supporting you, and you can still purchase any new plugins you want as you normally do, and you'll be completely unaffected. We are not getting rid of perpetual licenses. But for Slate Digital customers who want access to more amazing tools on their terms and at a price that they can easily justify, the Mix/Master or the Mix/Master/FX bundle is for you. And to help you get started, if you sign up for the subscription within 30 days of its release, you'll get credited for free months depending on the amount of Slate Digital plugins you have!"
     
    "With the Mix/Master Subscription, you can use your plugins when you want. And if you go away for a bit or take some time off from the studio, pause your subscription and save some money. There's no penalty, and you have complete freedom. Reactivating is easy."
     
     
    "And with the ilok you can take your subscription anywhere.. you can use your Mix/Master bundle at any studio in the world."
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    Re: Slate Digital about to start with monthly subscription . 2015/01/22 17:45:55 (permalink)
    I see this as a good deal for those who work on mixing projects only occasionally.  Helps Slate's cash flow, too. 
     
    Another interesting announcement was the availability of the Relab LX480 reverb plugin in the upgraded Slate subscription.  I'm assuming that means you'll go to Slate for support now, instead of the resource-limited shop that is Relab.  That'll be a good thing, I'm sure. 
     
    Subscriptions will only become more common in the future, as developers look for ways to reduce piracy and improve cash flow. 
     
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    Re: Slate Digital about to start with monthly subscription . 2015/01/22 18:06:29 (permalink)
    Eddie got his crystal ball tuned in right.
     
    This will be unfortunately the wave of the future, with renegades like Valhalla, Reaper, Klaghelm and others bucking the new norm.
     
    More and more developers will go to a subscription model. Yearly renewal fees, and you don't have a single file of software you can call your own. Computer will have to be internet connected for you to use a virtual license, subject to the whims of something outside your control. Have experienced multiple criminal crash and burns in my digital life. Extortion on the part of an immoral company changing the rules after you have paid hard earned money to use the license "in perpetuity".
     
    All I can do is support the little guys that sell you a product you like and give you a serial number to activate.
     
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    Re: Slate Digital about to start with monthly subscription . 2015/01/22 18:20:30 (permalink)
    JohnKenn
    Eddie got his crystal ball tuned in right.
     
    Have experienced multiple criminal crash and burns in my digital life. Extortion on the part of an immoral company changing the rules after you have paid hard earned money to use the license "in perpetuity".
     
    John



    Is this even legal or possible? I don't think so. If i've already paid in full for a product and now own the license to use it, how can a company then say you no longer own the product and now you have to pay an on-going fee to keep using it? Doesn't make sense; that's seems to me like the original purchase has been negated and they've stolen your money. Is this legal for them to do that? Slate doesn't have an issue with piracy because he has iLok connected to his products, so no issue there i would have thought.
     
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    Re: Slate Digital about to start with monthly subscription . 2015/01/22 19:34:07 (permalink)
    Don't panic, guys ... anyone who's already bought Slate's stuff can keep it.  The subscription is just a new option.  See the last paragraph on the page linked above.
     
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    Re: Slate Digital about to start with monthly subscription . 2015/01/22 20:17:24 (permalink)
    Drone,
     
    The rejection scenario is real if you have someone else controlling your license.
     
    Have lost a couple hundred dollars, bait and switch. Doesn't drive me into bankruptcy, but leaves a bad taste after you are screwed by the fine print.
     
    Beating a dead horse, but real time examples.
     
    Voyetra, still in business. Paid full price for Midi Orchestrator and the full DAW version.
     
    Website claim that the bastards are protecting me from data loss, so no new activations will be authorized. Authorization center is shut down for my wellbeing.
     
    Waves shut down my GTO authorization. Said they won't invade and disable my existing version, but they decided to cut any further activations. They feel your pain and are ready to fix the problem if your credit card is ready to pay for the extortion.
     
    Fuk' em. This is why I have everything requiring a convoluted online call response backed up with a solid warez crack.
     
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    Re: Slate Digital about to start with monthly subscription . 2015/01/22 20:57:57 (permalink)
    What they are looking at is a regular Monthly income to support themselves...
    rather then an unknown variable of sales monthly or annually...

    While it, on the surface, seems like a good idea...it's not...as it will give them
    "false" flags of income...which will, in the long run, do more harm then good...


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    Re: Slate Digital about to start with monthly subscription . 2015/01/24 21:08:07 (permalink)
    JohnKenn
    Drone,
     
    The rejection scenario is real if you have someone else controlling your license.
     
    Have lost a couple hundred dollars, bait and switch. Doesn't drive me into bankruptcy, but leaves a bad taste after you are screwed by the fine print.
     
    Beating a dead horse, but real time examples.
     
    Voyetra, still in business. Paid full price for Midi Orchestrator and the full DAW version.
     
    Website claim that the bastards are protecting me from data loss, so no new activations will be authorized. Authorization center is shut down for my wellbeing.
     
    Waves shut down my GTO authorization. Said they won't invade and disable my existing version, but they decided to cut any further activations. They feel your pain and are ready to fix the problem if your credit card is ready to pay for the extortion.
     
    Fuk' em. This is why I have everything requiring a convoluted online call response backed up with a solid warez crack.
     
    John




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    wizard71
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    Re: Slate Digital about to start with monthly subscription . 2015/01/25 11:50:53 (permalink)
    Just read the thread on gearslutz where Steven says that after a customer has paid their $19.99 monthly subscription for a year they will receive a $200 voucher to spend on slate products. I think this is an amazing deal. Effectively you get to use every slate plugin for a year then buy $200 worth or towards those that you liked the most for free. $39 for using the rest. Bargain. Plus, depending on how many slate plugins you already own, you get up to 6 months free subscription.
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    Re: Slate Digital about to start with monthly subscription . 2015/01/25 20:45:29 (permalink)
    I have a few Slate products. I have also read through the long, long Gearslutz discussion and I think that, depending on personal circumstances, his new subscription plan would be beneficial to both pro's and amateurs. The attraction of the value for money is based around Slate's math and the requirement for people wanting to "rent" 5-10 plugins per year. I'm not sure that is realistic, although he does seem to indicate that he may branch out into other types of plugins and not just dynamics etc. Many people such as myself already have too many plugins, and like others I have reached saturation point. (How many plugins does a person need?) My purchases are now based around workflow improvements.
    These latest subscription/membership model announcements in the audio world certainly have created a lot of emotion and it does appear as if this is how the industry is now tracking. As always it will come back to the consumer purchasing what they think is the best product/service at the best price. It will be interesting to see how other companies react to Slate and Cakewalk, and I think the competition will be fierce. Regretfully, some smaller companies may not survive.
    As Cakewalk has stated, they will need to produce the goods for consumers to continue to subscribe or purchase. And if they don't, there are plenty of alternatives. Sonar is my only DAW, so I'm hoping Cakewalk can bring home the bacon.
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