mikedocy
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free version of Pro Tools: Pro Tools First
http://apps.avid.com/ProToolsFirst/ From web page: Want to make great sounding music? Start off right using many of the same tools the pros use—absolutely free. Pro Tools | First is simple enough for beginners, yet sophisticated for experienced musicians, enabling you to quickly compose, record, edit, and mix music. Entry to the industry’s most trusted audio workstation has never been easier.
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/22 15:57:02
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This will be interesting. PT typically has a high entry cost once you get past the LE versions and free versions that you get with hardware (or just from their site now).
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/22 15:59:56
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/01/22 19:25:05
I remember when they offered a free version in the past. should be interesting
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/22 17:09:37
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Hmmmm... might be a cheap way of getting used to Protools workflow... if it is similar to the program..
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Rain
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/22 19:33:45
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I remember when they offered a free version in the past. should be interesting
And what a dreadful piece of code it was! I was anxious to finally try Pro Tools, but that one left me more than disappointed. If I remember correctly, some folks had hacked it and increased the tracks limit, but the software was hardly usable, anyway. They've put out some nice entry-level software since, though. All in all, Pro Tools cost me $298. $99 M-Powered 9 which I bought a few years back on sale, and $199 for the latest upgrade last November. I think it's not a software you just jump on or buy impulsively, but if you're patient and study your options, you can get a decent deal.
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/22 20:49:06
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I have PT 11 and like it a lot. It has been more stable then Sonar...
and the AAX format seems to work better then VST 3....
but that's just my experience...YMMV
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/22 21:09:40
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/22 21:11:25
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cclarry
I have PT 11 and like it a lot. It has been more stable then Sonar...
and the AAX format seems to work better then VST 3....
but that's just my experience...YMMV
But same project , same amount of plugins (the same) more cpu load , less optimised ...this was my experience , don't you think so ? I second the VST 3 versus AAX , but i doubt dev have really used the vst " features , they just made it compatibale ...
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cclarry
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/22 21:26:03
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Zo
cclarry
I have PT 11 and like it a lot. It has been more stable then Sonar...
and the AAX format seems to work better then VST 3....
but that's just my experience...YMMV
But same project , same amount of plugins (the same) more cpu load , less optimised ...this was my experience , don't you think so ?
I second the VST 3 versus AAX , but i doubt dev have really used the vst " features , they just made it compatibale ...
Not from my experience Zo...PT 11 has been Rock Solid, especially since the 11.2 update...Sonar X3 and now Platinum...not so much... Granted there aren't as many features (or BONUS 3rd Party Content  ) but as far as stability goes it's been solid. I still prefer Sonar's interface...best hands down...but Sonar is always "balking" at something...be it Waveshell, or some other plugin or format (VST3 was really flakey when X3 launched), and my Platinum install was smooth, but running the program was not smooth at all...Melodyne Editor and a few others "choked" it...so had to uninstall and reinstall to them to get them to work properly. Maybe the fact that I have so many DAW's installed...but, nevertheless...PT didn't (and hasn't) choke..why should Sonar? As I stated, that's just MY experience...YMMV....
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/22 21:33:11
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didn't tried the 11.2 but i always found protools kinda hungry !!! are you suing it in post only ? or even production ....
For X 3 , i bought it , installed it and unistalled it then !!lol
For platnum , i'm still thinking , it's solid , by the way , zero issues with melodyne or waveshell
itried vst 3 , did some test , zero benefit except the bypass , so i cancel the migration , some feature are killaz and make the X1 / platnum transition really worth it (don't know if X3 to platnum is) but the mix recall is one of those great surprise !!
What kills me is that whe you install platnum , it forces X1 to do a full rescan = all my registry is messed up (i used to customise plugins like name , entry ect)
And the worst thing is that there's 2 inventory now so it double my work , i spent the day doing this today and have to do it again tomorw if i choose to insgall also on my second comp !!
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/22 22:03:40
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I really like PT 11.2. If you are working with live tracks the tools it includes are very powerful. Coming from SONAR isn't easy because it's a totally different mindset. But once you get used to it, the things that you can do in that environment are hard to do without.
I've been able to manipulate my screensets in SONAR platinum to make it a little more PT-ish in appearance but Beat Detective and Audio Warp is where the rubber meets the road - not to mention all the routing possibilities.
SONAR will be fun for creating my own projects and experimentation but I will likely be using PT for everything else.
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/23 03:54:11
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Thanks signed up... will be nice to try Pro Tools First, and see how that will work out.
post edited by Soundblend - 2015/01/23 04:04:53
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rontarrant
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/23 04:09:56
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I was interested until I saw that I wouldn't be able to use any of the VST plugins I've amassed over the years. Some other disturbing limitations, too. Like, you can only create three projects with the free version, then you have to buy project space on the cloud. Here's a full list of the capabilities/incapabilities: http://www.avid.com/US/pr...tware-comparison-table
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/23 06:24:49
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I was interested until I saw that I wouldn't be able to use any of the VST plugins I've amassed over the years. Some other disturbing limitations, too. Like, you can only create three projects with the free version, then you have to buy project space on the cloud. Here's a full list of the capabilities/incapabilities:
http://www.avid.com/US/pr...tware-comparison-table
Most Companies now offer AAX versions of the VST's that will work in PT.... so if you want to use your plugins you still can....just an FYI...
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/23 07:02:29
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I was interested until I saw that I wouldn't be able to use any of the VST plugins I've amassed over the years. Some other disturbing limitations, too. Like, you can only create three projects with the free version, then you have to buy project space on the cloud. Here's a full list of the capabilities/incapabilities:
http://www.avid.com/US/pr...tware-comparison-table
There are vst adapter apps available that will host your VSTs. Maybe there is a demo mode for one to give you a feel for how they would work. I've got one but I generally stay away from any sort of bridging apps because of the potential for hiccups.
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/23 12:08:03
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Guyz be sure to specify that PT really sucks for modern producers (aka in the box) ...for tracking and live player iut's exellent but for Producers ....keep it minds that Sonar will be far Superior in the midi dept ....keep PT as an option after ...and giving the quality of sonar summing engine and double precison options and that full 64 bits ....PT is just struggling to be as good nowdayz ....
So really , using PT is to be considered if like Bob you gonna use it's editing and specificty to the fullest , cause it's wehere it shines ...
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/23 15:58:36
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There are vst adapter apps available that will host your VSTs. Maybe there is a demo mode for one to give you a feel for how they would work. I've got one but I generally stay away from any sort of bridging apps because of the potential for hiccups.
Yup. Sounds like trouble to me. I'll stick with Sonar. Besides, it's mostly the three-song limit that bugs me. But thanks for the info. If I'm ever in a spot where I need something like that, at least I know it exists.
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/23 16:20:57
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Agreed. What a joke. Maximum of 3 stored projects then you have to purchase more cloud space. You can't save the project to your local hard drive with the free version, you can only save to the cloud. http://www.avid.com/US/pr...tware-comparison-table
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/23 17:23:35
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Well, the only reason why a company would give away something is to lure people into buying something. They'd be out of business in no time if they provided a free product which doesn't have any serious limitation.
Free is the new demo.
OTOH, if you collaborate with someone on a project and need PT for compatibility only, you might get by with Free.
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/23 17:35:14
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Guyz be sure to specify that PT really sucks for modern producers (aka in the box) ...for tracking and live player iut's exellent but for Producers ....keep it minds that Sonar will be far Superior in the midi dept ....keep PT as an option after ...and giving the quality of sonar summing engine and double precison options and that full 64 bits ....PT is just struggling to be as good nowdayz ....
So really , using PT is to be considered if like Bob you gonna use it's editing and specificty to the fullest , cause it's wehere it shines ...
Not for producers? Woooh....I guess thousands of Producers in major studio's all over the world aren't using Pro Tools then? Hmmmm...no...not really...
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/23 17:56:21
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Zo
Guyz be sure to specify that PT really sucks for modern producers (aka in the box) ...for tracking and live player iut's exellent but for Producers ....keep it minds that Sonar will be far Superior in the midi dept ....keep PT as an option after ...and giving the quality of sonar summing engine and double precison options and that full 64 bits ....PT is just struggling to be as good nowdayz ....
So really , using PT is to be considered if like Bob you gonna use it's editing and specificty to the fullest , cause it's wehere it shines ...
Not for producers? Woooh....I guess thousands of Producers in major studio's all over the world
aren't using Pro Tools then? Hmmmm...no...not really...
I guess that Modern Producers = Beat Makers, as some of them like to call themselves. Parenthesis - It always makes me cringe a bit see the title "producer" abused as it is nowadays. I mean, there's a world of difference between George Martin or Alan Moulder and self-promoting DJ's making music on a cracked copy of Fruity Loops in their parents basement who call themselves DJ/Producer... As if the lack of a proper producer entitled any self-promoting "artist" to appropriate the title by default. Self-medicating does not make one a doctor. Still - even outside the ranks of those so-called "modern producers", there are major artists producing music that's anything but traditional pop or rock band with Pro Tools. Nine Inch Nails come to mind...
post edited by Rain - 2015/01/23 21:56:53
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Re: free version of pro Tools: Pro Tools First
2015/01/23 21:47:32
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I signed up for the free version simply because I know nothing about Pro Tools and want to see it. I have to say that I was surprised by the lack of features and limitations. It really sounds like Sonar's dumb cousin Mikey.
I'll look at it and probably delete it after a day. That's what happened to the other DAW's I bought.
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