Logic Pro X 10.1 features / questions

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Logic Pro X 10.1 features / questions

This was announced at NAMM.
 
A couple of features made me laugh (maybe I just don't get exactly why these would be useful) - it seems these were just added to Sonar as well:
 
  • Create a sequence of notes with a single mouse gesture using the new Brush Tool in the Piano Roll Editor 
  • Easily compress or expand the timing of selected notes with new time handles in the Piano Roll Editor
Anyway,
 
Can someone answer a couple of questions re: Logic?  (I used to have Logic Audio Windows 5.5)
 
From what I remember, there is no equivalent of the Matrix View, correct?
 
It has Audio and MIDI Apple loops - do these have the same funtionality as Acid Loops or Groove Clips?
 
Is there any major feature which Sonar has that Logic does not?
 
I remember really loving the virtual instruments which came with Logic.
 
Thanks
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    Re: Logic Pro X 10.1 features / questions 2015/01/22 18:19:15 (permalink)
    pbognar
    This was announced at NAMM.
     
    A couple of features made me laugh (maybe I just don't get exactly why these would be useful) - it seems these were just added to Sonar as well:
     
    • Create a sequence of notes with a single mouse gesture using the new Brush Tool in the Piano Roll Editor 
    • Easily compress or expand the timing of selected notes with new time handles in the Piano Roll Editor

     
    First feature would be useful to paint 16th notes hi-hat patterns, for exemple. It is hardly a novelty in most DAWs, but Logic did not have it. Beat Makers, as they call themselves, will rejoice.
     
    Second I'm not sure. Maybe you could now time-compress a region in the piano roll as you would in the arrange - take a 4 bar loop and shrink it to 2 bars, so that it essentially plays twice as fast. but I'm not sure that that's what they mean. I've just downloaded the update.
     
    pbognar
    Anyway,
     
    Can someone answer a couple of questions re: Logic?  (I used to have Logic Audio Windows 5.5)
     
    From what I remember, there is no equivalent of the Matrix View, correct?
     
    It has Audio and MIDI Apple loops - do these have the same funtionality as Acid Loops or Groove Clips?
     
    Is there any major feature which Sonar has that Logic does not?
     
    I remember really loving the virtual instruments which came with Logic.
     
    Thanks




    1 - I've never worked with the matrix, so I can't tell. It's basically a launch pad for loops, isn't it? I rarely use loops, and the way my brain is wired, if I had to control them with one GUI, I'd probably use EXS-24 (though the brand new Drum Machine Designer could be use for that as well, I guess).
     
    2 - Yes. Logic also comes with a Apple Loop utility to create/fine tune/deep edit loops.
     
    3 - As far as I can tell, the integrated console/PC channel thinigie would be one. Subsciption plan is another. 3rd party add-ons. 
     
    It'd probably be much easier for me to go on about all the amazing features in Logic and the exciting new features, content (mellotron, yay!) and workflow enhancements in 10.1. But that would be uncalled for, so I prefer to stick to specifics.
     
    I can tell you though that those synths have gotten a whole lot more impressive in recent years, and that additions such as Retro Synth, which covers subtractive, FM and Wavetable, and Drumkit Designer (which, imho, represents the future of drums plug-ins) only adds to an already brilliant collection. In that department, Logic stands head and shoulders above the rest.

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    Re: Logic Pro X 10.1 features / questions 2015/01/22 18:39:11 (permalink)
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    pbognar
    This was announced at NAMM.
     
    A couple of features made me laugh (maybe I just don't get exactly why these would be useful) - it seems these were just added to Sonar as well:
     
    • Create a sequence of notes with a single mouse gesture using the new Brush Tool in the Piano Roll Editor 
    • Easily compress or expand the timing of selected notes with new time handles in the Piano Roll Editor

     
    First feature would be useful to paint 16th notes hi-hat patterns, for exemple. It is hardly a novelty in most DAWs, but Logic did not have it. Beat Makers, as they call themselves, will rejoice.
     
    Second I'm not sure. Maybe you could now time-compress a region in the piano roll as you would in the arrange - take a 4 bar loop and shrink it to 2 bars, so that it essentially plays twice as fast. but I'm not sure that that's what they mean. I've just downloaded the update.
     
    pbognar
    Anyway,
     
    Can someone answer a couple of questions re: Logic?  (I used to have Logic Audio Windows 5.5)
     
    From what I remember, there is no equivalent of the Matrix View, correct?
     
    It has Audio and MIDI Apple loops - do these have the same funtionality as Acid Loops or Groove Clips?
     
    Is there any major feature which Sonar has that Logic does not?
     
    I remember really loving the virtual instruments which came with Logic.
     
    Thanks




    1 - I've never worked with the matrix, so I can't tell. It's basically a launch pad for loops, isn't it? I rarely use loops, and the way my brain is wired, if I had to control them with one GUI, I'd probably use EXS-24 (though the brand new Drum Machine Designer could be use for that as well, I guess).
     
    2 - Yes. Logic also comes with a Apple Loop utility to create/fine tune/deep edit loops.
     
    3 - As far as I can tell, the integrated console/PC channel thinigie would be one. Subsciption plan is another. 3rd party add-ons. 
     
    It'd probably be much easier for me to go on about all the amazing features in Logic and the exciting new features, content (mellotron, yay!) and workflow enhancements in 10.1. But that would be uncalled for, so I prefer to stick to specifics.
     
    I can tell you though that those synths have gotten a whole lot more impressive in recent years, and that additions such as Retro Synth, which covers subtractive, FM and Wavetable, and Drumkit Designer (which, imho, represents the future of drums plug-ins) only adds to an already brilliant collection. In that department, Logic stands head and shoulders above the rest.




    I was at Best Buy getting something, and I stopped by their Apple area.  I started GarageBand on one of the iMacs, and it was like, "I'm home again".  I can only imagine what Logic is like.
     
    I have to keep on the lookout for a used Mac Pro or Imac locally. 
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    Re: Logic Pro X 10.1 features / questions 2015/01/22 18:41:21 (permalink)
    BTW - what forum is the best for Logic questions?
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    Re: Logic Pro X 10.1 features / questions 2015/01/22 19:24:06 (permalink)
    I like http://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/index.php
     
    Maybe I didn't put the time into it either, but I've never personally felt a sense of community as strong as here on these forums, which are unrivalled, imho. 
     
    But in terms of getting an answer to a question, it's hard to beat. The main moderator there (David N.) writes the Logic certification books for Apple, and there are plenty of certified trainers/members onboard. I don't think I've ever had an unanswered question there.
     
    The old Logic User Group isn't bad either, but it's not as active. Eli Krantzberg, who's a formidable trainer and did some great tutorials for Sonar, used to be an active member (can't say now, since I haven't visited in a while).

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