VPS Effects Automation Bug with Sonar Platinum

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2015/01/22 19:06:16 (permalink)

VPS Effects Automation Bug with Sonar Platinum

If I write and on off of a parameter it now stays on.  not happening in X3..
 
EDIT: Tried X3 today and its happing in X3 too.. weird  Maybe because all saved files have change to a black Icon ( meaning something change our older files) , When I save a new file or open an older file in X3 I no longer have the grey X3 icon .cwp file it has changed to match platinum not sure if that makes a difference or not. just noticing it.
post edited by djjhart@aol.com - 2015/01/27 12:00:59

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    djjhart@aol.com
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    Re: VPS Effects .Bug with Sonar Platinum 2015/01/23 07:07:25 (permalink)
    If anyone has any Vengeance effect plugins such as the VPS bundle, Glitch **** or tape stop can you please see if you can write some automation and then playback to see if the effect turns on by it's self.
     Any help would be great!!!
     
    post edited by djjhart@aol.com - 2015/01/27 11:51:38

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    Re: VPS Effects .Bug with Sonar Platinum 2015/01/25 08:13:43 (permalink)
    I contacted support over at vengeance got a response from . Sent a report to cakewalk , no response .

    This was the message I recived from Vengeance .

    hi,

    as it seems, your DAW does not set the first off. it just records the first on.
    so when you start the playback from begin, the hosts sets the ON value.
    you just need to draw a OFF before the first ON.

    seems to be a bug in your DAW.

    regards,

    Rene Keilwerth
    keilwerth Audio

    http://youtu.be/x5he9BuKl3I
    post edited by djjhart@aol.com - 2015/01/30 14:46:15

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    Hardware - Tascam Fw1884 Control surface only, Ni S49 Komplete Kontroll,Roland Quad Capture, Ni Machine,Kore, Focusrite A/D converter, Blue Mic, Roland Gaia, Akai Mpk49, Yamaha HS80 Monitors.
    Software - Sonar Platinum , Vengeance VPS bundle,Sugar Bytes Effectrix, Turnado, NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Dune, Rob Papen  Blade , Delay, Punch Evolved.
     http://soundcloud.com/johnhartson/tracks  
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    Re: VPS Effects .Bug with Sonar Platinum 2015/01/27 10:10:42 (permalink)
    Totally Stinks when you don't receive any conformation whats so ever from anyone on the CW site or from CW, But the plugin designer responded right back requesting a video and and saying its bug within your DAW. 
     
    CWBRN-30994
    http://youtu.be/x5he9BuKl3I <------Video showing the Issue.. 

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    Software - Sonar Platinum , Vengeance VPS bundle,Sugar Bytes Effectrix, Turnado, NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Dune, Rob Papen  Blade , Delay, Punch Evolved.
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    Re: VPS Effects .Bug with Sonar Platinum 2015/01/27 15:06:28 (permalink)
    It may be that very few people here use those particular plugins. I for one have never heard of them, but that doesn't mean anything.
     
    I personally have not seen the kind of automation problem you are seeing, and I've automated a ton of things, including on/off parameters. If you can't get it to work, copy a clip of the audio you want to apply the effect to into another track and use the plugin on that track.
     
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    Re: VPS Effects .Bug with Sonar Platinum 2015/01/27 15:49:59 (permalink)
    ill try later today as I own glitch ****. i have already had a problem with scope not installing on my laptop (pre platinum release). 

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    Re: VPS Effects .Bug with Sonar Platinum 2015/01/27 18:41:22 (permalink)
    perfectprint
    ill try later today as I own glitch ****. i have already had a problem with scope not installing on my laptop (pre platinum release). 


    Thanks million appreciate very much !!

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    Re: VPS Effects .Bug with Sonar Platinum 2015/01/29 15:56:41 (permalink)
    How long dose it take for someone @ CW to get back to you.. What other channels can I go thru? Feels like this issue won't be resolved or looked into . should I call , should i receive a confirmation of my bug report , i received nothing . All I know it could be a user error..

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    Software - Sonar Platinum , Vengeance VPS bundle,Sugar Bytes Effectrix, Turnado, NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Dune, Rob Papen  Blade , Delay, Punch Evolved.
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    Re: VPS Effects .Bug with Sonar Platinum 2015/01/29 21:39:49 (permalink)
    Might be a good idea to remove your email address from your username so you don't get spammed?
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/You-can-now-change-your-user-name-for-the-Cakewalk-Site-and-Forums-m3161848.aspx
     
    Anyway back to topic, can anybody else reproduce this?
    Thanks..

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    Re: VPS Effects .Bug with Sonar Platinum 2015/01/30 10:05:11 (permalink)
    Cakewalk's email support can take quite awhile. I had an issue some time ago that took over three weeks to get a response to. I had already resolved it by the time I got the email. I would suggest calling instead.
     
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    Re: VPS Effects .Bug with Sonar Platinum 2015/01/30 14:47:44 (permalink)
    CakeAlexS
    Might be a good idea to remove your email address from your username so you don't get spammed?
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/You-can-now-change-your-user-name-for-the-Cakewalk-Site-and-Forums-m3161848.aspx
     
    Anyway back to topic, can anybody else reproduce this?
    Thanks..


    Alex Thanks for looking Out ..

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    Hardware - Tascam Fw1884 Control surface only, Ni S49 Komplete Kontroll,Roland Quad Capture, Ni Machine,Kore, Focusrite A/D converter, Blue Mic, Roland Gaia, Akai Mpk49, Yamaha HS80 Monitors.
    Software - Sonar Platinum , Vengeance VPS bundle,Sugar Bytes Effectrix, Turnado, NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Dune, Rob Papen  Blade , Delay, Punch Evolved.
     http://soundcloud.com/johnhartson/tracks  
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    Re: VPS Effects .Bug with Sonar Platinum 2015/01/30 14:48:36 (permalink)
    dcumpian
    Cakewalk's email support can take quite awhile. I had an issue some time ago that took over three weeks to get a response to. I had already resolved it by the time I got the email. I would suggest calling instead.
     
    Regards,
    Dan


    I will do that later today .. Thanks for your Help..

    Computer - Intel Q9550, Intel BX48bt2 MB, W8 64 bit. 8 gb Ram, SSD  
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    Software - Sonar Platinum , Vengeance VPS bundle,Sugar Bytes Effectrix, Turnado, NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Dune, Rob Papen  Blade , Delay, Punch Evolved.
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    Re: VPS Effects .Bug with Sonar Platinum 2015/02/17 09:12:25 (permalink)
    I never did call in , and I never got a response at all . Why bother logging bugs when no one confirms they received your report. :(  CWBRN - 30994

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    Software - Sonar Platinum , Vengeance VPS bundle,Sugar Bytes Effectrix, Turnado, NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Dune, Rob Papen  Blade , Delay, Punch Evolved.
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    Re: VPS Effects .Bug with Sonar Platinum 2015/02/20 18:14:12 (permalink)
    Sorry about the delay, things have been busy around here. I responded to your report and am including the same message here so the thread isn't left hanging.
     
    I contacted Vengeance Sound for copies of these plug-ins and it's clear where the confusion comes in with automation. SONAR applies the value of the very first automation node from the beginning of the track until that node's position in the project timeline. This behavior works well for most parameters, like track volume or EQ settings. For the Tape Stop "Stop" button and Glitch ****'s "Glitch" button, however, this behavior winds up applying the plug-in's stopped or glitching behavior too early, as you found.
     
    In order to get around this, simply add one automation node in the "off" position directly in front of the first "Glitch" or "Stop" automation node. As you know, you'd want to place this node at the bottom of the automation lane to trigger the "off" position of the Glitch or Stop parameter. (This is the same suggestion you received from Rene Keilwerth.)
     
    I understand that doing this would be an extra step in your workflow. But, unless it's possible for these plug-ins to reverse the value that the "Stop" and "Glitch" buttons record while automating them, please add one node to the "off" position of this automation lane.
     
     
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