i have no inside information

Doktor Avalanche
Even now Cakewalk is (hopefully) fixing bugs and workflow issues that should have been resolved under Roland's watch..

That's exactly the point. They're not. They're building things that nobody ever wanted like paintable MIDI files and Drum Replacer while the Matrix sits in the same beta state it's been in for years and automation is still a joke. But I'm not going to turn this thread into yet another flame war over the state of Cakewalk. Suffice to say, I do not agree w/ your assessment. 

jih64

Notecrusher


That's exactly the point. They're not. They're building things that nobody ever wanted like paintable MIDI files and Drum Replacer while the Matrix sits in the same beta state it's been in for years and automation is still a joke. But I'm not going to turn this thread into yet another flame war over the state of Cakewalk. Suffice to say, I do not agree w/ your assessment. 

I think that's a bit harsh. They may or may not have fixed things yet that we as individuals may have wanted to be fixed, but I'm pretty sure if you look through the release notes of the various releases to date, there you will find quite a number of issues fixed, and that process is ongoing.
 
I for one like the "paintable MIDI files" and a number of other things they have brought to the table, I find very useful.

Do you know why I'm even here posting tonight? I fired up Splat to work on a project I'm really excited about. But it won't play. It's one of those infamous Sonar ****ed projects that JUST WON'T PLAY. Oh, I tried to fix it, tried to make it behave, but it's no use. So now I have to transfer every track, every synth, every effect out of that project and into a fresh project in order to reconstruct it so I can work on it again. Workflow? HAHAHAHAHA. My buzz is killed. The thrill is gone. I'm looking at 2 hours of work to get back to ground zero. And I have been here before.

 
 

Notecrusher

jih64

Notecrusher


That's exactly the point. They're not. They're building things that nobody ever wanted like paintable MIDI files and Drum Replacer while the Matrix sits in the same beta state it's been in for years and automation is still a joke. But I'm not going to turn this thread into yet another flame war over the state of Cakewalk. Suffice to say, I do not agree w/ your assessment. 

I think that's a bit harsh. They may or may not have fixed things yet that we as individuals may have wanted to be fixed, but I'm pretty sure if you look through the release notes of the various releases to date, there you will find quite a number of issues fixed, and that process is ongoing.
 
I for one like the "paintable MIDI files" and a number of other things they have brought to the table, I find very useful.

Do you know why I'm even here posting tonight? I fired up Splat to work on a project I'm really excited about. But it won't play. It's one of those infamous Sonar ****ed projects that JUST WON'T PLAY. Oh, I tried to fix it, tried to make it behave, but it's no use. So now I have to transfer every track, every synth, every effect out of that project and into a fresh project in order to reconstruct it so I can work on it again. Workflow? HAHAHAHAHA. My buzz is killed. The thrill is gone. I'm looking at 2 hours of work to get back to ground zero. And I have been here before.

If that happened to me, even once, I'd be looking for another DAW. But it has never happened (knock on wood) in all of the years I have worked with CWPA and Sonar.
 
I suspect there is something particular in your setup that is causing this, most likely a flaky VST.
 
Regards,
Dan
 

Notecrusher
Do you know why I'm even here posting tonight? I fired up Splat to work on a project I'm really excited about. But it won't play. It's one of those infamous Sonar ****ed projects that JUST WON'T PLAY. Oh, I tried to fix it, tried to make it behave, but it's no use. So now I have to transfer every track, every synth, every effect out of that project and into a fresh project in order to reconstruct it so I can work on it again. Workflow? HAHAHAHAHA. My buzz is killed. The thrill is gone. I'm looking at 2 hours of work to get back to ground zero. And I have been here before.

I like to think I tell it how it is, and suffer the consequences later. That has never happened to me ever in any version of Sonar. That is the truth. You should look at your environment... Start with Sonar safe mode.

jih64
 
My point and comments still stand, you can't just point blankly say "That's exactly the point. They're not." when the truth is they are, just that your particular problem seems to not be fixed as yet. I don't think there would be to many people hanging around here if they were truly not fixing anything.
 
All the best with your troubles.

NO, the truth is they are not. Automation being a mess, the matrix view being released in beta state and left that way for years and to this day, important features being removed from the software like draw tool customization, are not "my particular problem". They effect all users.
 
But this is not about any of that. We are not going to vet every single issue with Sonar right now on this one single thread. This all came up as a digression from the OP beginning on post #11 where personal attacks were made on a couple of posters because we had the audacity to speak critically about a software program. Both of us have asserted that we will not be bullied and we will continue to speak on-topic, openly about Cakewalk as we see fit. 
 
The OP and the poster who began the digression are both long gone. There is nothing more to say. This topic can be considered FINISHED AND CLOSED.

Doktor Avalanche
Not bad saying thread is closed considering you are not the OP....

Anyway you sound as angry as I was under Roland. I'd come back in a year and see what has happened since then. If nothing then I'll shout with you.. You need to read the release PDF's to see has been fixed that's where all the facts are.

I get most of your points but Sonar is stable and most of what you mention here is Rolands fault.

I'm peed about longstanding issues too but we all have to explain ourselves better.

I think you would get your points across better if you raised each of your specific concerns in seperare threads in the Sonar forums, in a calm manner we might get an interesting debate. If you generalise things what more can you expect other than get general comments back.

Oh, so YOU want to prolong this? Fine then.
 
It's arbitrary to say "come back in a year and be angry then". I said that a year ago... And the year before that. And the year before that. So no, not Roland's fault. Also I didn't generalize, I have given specifics every step of the way, BUT ONLY because asked to. ONCE AGAIN, the point HERE was only that we won't be bullied, NOT to raise specific issues about the software. Sounds like YOU want a fight. Won't allow the thread to die, demand specifics, then say don't group specifics on one thread when that was never the intent and I made that clear. 
 
Once again, as far as *I* am concerned the topic is closed. 

You are straight up trolling. Your mischaracterizations are broad and wide. Seriously, it must be a great deal of work to fashion such an array of lies. SORRY TROLL, I am not going away to "come back and talk of specific issues on other threads in the Sonar forum". I have ALWAYS posted specifics, right here in this very thread, which you of course know. Your eyes do go up. But also in many other threads in this forum and others, FOR ELEVEN YEARS, as you can verify.
 
It truly boggles the mind -- the level of insecurity. But it's not my problem, and I will not be cowed nor threatened in the least by impotent little boys.

Notecrusher
 
and I will not be cowed nor threatened in the least by impotent little boys.

lol

Doktor Avalanche
Well I tried to meet you half way and you are having none of it. When you have calmed down maybe reread the thread 

 
Your BS is breathtaking. I twice implored that the thread be closed. You reopened it both times explicitly to troll me:
"Not bad saying thread is closed considering you are not the OP".

As for rereading the thread, yes, I suggest you do to review the reality of who I am vs the anti-Cakewalk straw man who never posts any specific claims you've been pointlessly railing against.
 

If your definition of being specific is tell everybody that something is in mess and are in a beta state then I'm a BS mischaracterising trolling impotent little boy LOL. That does not tell us anything. For some hints on how to be more specific click on the link I supplied above.

And attempting to close other peoples threads because you deem it convenient to yourself I'm afraid will get you no friends around here,nor will your aggressive language. Btw you don't have any permissions to close threads, but hopefully a host will come along shortly and do so.

The only thing I'm against is your attitude, if you developed clearer language and told us exactly your specific gripes in a more respectful manner, we need might engage more, we might have even agreed with you.

Over and out.