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[Solved] Less colors options in Platnum than X1?!

Ok guyz i'm doing the last tweaks to platnum and to my surp^rise i imported my X1 color scheme ..so cool VU ! ok ect ...but names and cell aren't updzating colors , i opne the colors option and to my surpirse et good number of color ioption are gone ...some in other filters but some literrally no more here !!
 
PLEASE TELL me it's BUG on my system !!
 


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Re: Really ? 2015/01/23 14:38:24 (permalink)
Can somebody confirm it has the same menu as on the right side for the Console colors option ?

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Re: Really ? 2015/01/23 14:57:59 (permalink)
Except for the language it looks the same to me. Don't know if it is by design.
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Re: Really ? 2015/01/23 15:00:12 (permalink)
What I DO know is X1 contained several color listings that did not apply so in later versions some of these were removed.
 
Also, closing and reopening Sonar is necessary for some colors to take effect.
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Re: Really ? 2015/01/23 18:05:46 (permalink)
Please make the subject meaningful. The current subject is not acceptable for a problem report.
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Re: Really ? 2015/01/23 18:10:00 (permalink)
Bascially X1 colors options ,, some of those are gone in Platnum ...(maybe even in X3 don't know)
 
I cheked the registry and there's defintily less entry ...i will try to copy on key of X1 to platnum to see if it works ..if so , this could be a workaround !!!
 
I will post the saved key ;)
 

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Re: Really ? 2015/02/07 21:04:31 (permalink)
I doubt it will work because Sonar writes the colors to the registry, so any you add will be erased or ignored the next time Sonar is launched.
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Re: Really ? 2015/02/07 21:32:01 (permalink)
We will just have to see if Cakewalk confirms this is by design or not, alternatively try here:
https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Contact/Problem-Report
 
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Re: Really ? 2015/02/08 01:02:08 (permalink)
Well, I can say for sure that X3 and Platinum are the same.
 
I took X3 and Platinum side by side, and every color option in X3 is in Platinum.

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Re: Really ? 2015/02/08 02:34:38 (permalink)
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What I DO know is X1 contained several color listings that did not apply so in later versions some of these were removed.



This is 100% correct. Among X1's quirks, one was that a lot of color options didn't actually do anything and were sort of "legacy" color stuff from 8.5. That got cleaned up in subsequent versions.

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Re: Really ? 2015/02/08 09:02:23 (permalink)
Well that wraps that one up...

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Re: Really ? 2015/02/08 11:12:00 (permalink)
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Well that wraps that one up...


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Re: Really ? 2015/04/21 10:31:28 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby wondaland 2015/05/31 16:26:22
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What I DO know is X1 contained several color listings that did not apply so in later versions some of these were removed.



This is 100% correct. Among X1's quirks, one was that a lot of color options didn't actually do anything and were sort of "legacy" color stuff from 8.5. That got cleaned up in subsequent versions.




 
So allowing clip background colors to be set by default is legacy?  removing options is a good thing?   this is a major gripe i have with the software right now, along with many others.
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Re: Really ? 2015/04/21 11:12:20 (permalink)
Have you tried using the Foreground & background colour options in the Track & Clip inspectors?

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Re: Really ? 2015/04/21 11:21:26 (permalink)
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What I DO know is X1 contained several color listings that did not apply so in later versions some of these were removed.



This is 100% correct. Among X1's quirks, one was that a lot of color options didn't actually do anything and were sort of "legacy" color stuff from 8.5. That got cleaned up in subsequent versions.




 
So allowing clip background colors to be set by default is legacy?  removing options is a good thing?   this is a major gripe i have with the software right now, along with many others.




You can set clip backgound colors to anything you want.
 
Removing options is a design decision but not all removals are permanent, and some are precursors to improvements. For example the 8.5 control bar was far more flexible than the one in X1. But now the control bar in Platinum is far more flexible than the one in 8.5. Many color option changes didn't make it into X1 but were restored in X3. Besides, if you want to go nuts with colors and customizations, there's Panup's Duckbar which takes things further than you could go in 8.5. 

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Re: Really ? 2015/04/21 11:21:57 (permalink)
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Have you tried using the Foreground & background colour options in the Track & Clip inspectors?




yes, i want it done automatically.  they removed that from the program in X3
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Re: Really ? 2015/04/21 11:23:15 (permalink)
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What I DO know is X1 contained several color listings that did not apply so in later versions some of these were removed.



This is 100% correct. Among X1's quirks, one was that a lot of color options didn't actually do anything and were sort of "legacy" color stuff from 8.5. That got cleaned up in subsequent versions.




 
So allowing clip background colors to be set by default is legacy?  removing options is a good thing?   this is a major gripe i have with the software right now, along with many others.




You can set clip backgound colors to anything you want.
 
Removing options is a design decision but not all removals are permanent, and some are precursors to improvements. For example the 8.5 control bar was far more flexible than the one in X1. But now the control bar in Platinum is far more flexible than the one in 8.5. Many color option changes didn't make it into X1 but were restored in X3. Besides, if you want to go nuts with colors and customizations, there's Panup's Duckbar which takes things further than you could go in 8.5. 




 
Anderton,
 
They removed the option in Prefs>Colors for "Audio Track #1 Clip Background...." (midi as well).
 
why?
 
they still have the foreground option 
 
how is that an IMPROVEMENT?
 
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Re: Really ? 2015/04/21 11:31:36 (permalink)
Programming decision

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Re: Really ? 2015/04/21 11:32:17 (permalink)
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Programming decision




why?
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Re: Really ? 2015/04/21 11:37:28 (permalink)
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Anderton,
 
They removed the option in Prefs>Colors for "Audio Track #1 Clip Background...." (midi as well).
 
why?

 
With the X-series, you can use the Inspector to change the background of all clips in a track, as well as change the background colors for individual clips in a track - they don't have to be all the same color.
 
how is that an IMPROVEMENT?



I didn't say it was an improvement, I said it was a design decision. It may be too complex to have options to change each clip individually and have a "global" change, because then you have to set up rules about which one will overwrite the other. 
 
Personally, not having a global track background color option has not impacted my workflow at all when creating music. I use the defaults unless I need to change something; I don't want to take the time to mess with the colors, and the defaults work for me. When they don't, I can change them.
 
Again, if you want extensive customization options, use Duckbar.

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Re: Really ? 2015/04/21 11:42:44 (permalink)
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Anderton,
 
They removed the option in Prefs>Colors for "Audio Track #1 Clip Background...." (midi as well).
 
why?

 
With the X-series, you can use the Inspector to change the background of all clips in a track, as well as change the background colors for individual clips in a track - they don't have to be all the same color.
 
how is that an IMPROVEMENT?



I didn't say it was an improvement, I said it was a design decision. It may be too complex to have options to change each clip individually and have a "global" change, because then you have to set up rules about which one will overwrite the other. 
 
Personally, not having a global track background color option has not impacted my workflow at all when creating music. I use the defaults unless I need to change something; I don't want to take the time to mess with the colors, and the defaults work for me. When they don't, I can change them.
 
Again, if you want extensive customization options, use Duckbar.




 
It's something that was working perfectly in X1.  They had the inspector option AND the prefs>color option for clip backgrounds.   
 
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Re: Really ? 2015/04/21 11:48:02 (permalink)
I made a post a while ago with a link to all of the color files pulled from X1-X3 in it. You can save a color set in X1 and pull it into Plat to get the defaults (X3/Plat do recognize them, you just cannot alter in prefs).

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Re: Really ? 2015/04/21 11:51:29 (permalink)
Then make a feature request and see if it's as important to others as it is to you. If so, maybe it can be restored but there may be code details happening behind the scenes...like whether the track colorization options that were added to the track view and console have an impact. Obviously it's easier to leave something in than take it out, so I presume there was a reason for doing so.

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Re: Really ? 2015/04/21 12:00:05 (permalink)
Sure, and I understand that.  There might be a good reason, but I hope its not to "make it simpler".  
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Re: Really ? 2015/04/21 12:02:46 (permalink)
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I made a post a while ago with a link to all of the color files pulled from X1-X3 in it. You can save a color set in X1 and pull it into Plat to get the defaults (X3/Plat do recognize them, you just cannot alter in prefs).



I'd forgotten about that post of yours. Pretty clever 

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Re: Really ? 2015/04/21 12:07:51 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby alewgro 2015/04/21 12:35:39
Actually logged into the computer to find that post. http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3192357
 
@alewgro, if you have modified X1/X2 to your liking globally, you can save your color preferences from that and load them into X3/Platinum. The ones in the post above are the "defaults" only, IIRC.

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Re: Really ? 2015/04/21 12:32:24 (permalink)
Thank you so much, that will help out a great deal mettelus!
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Re: Really ? 2015/04/21 18:02:21 (permalink)
 
Thanks for the help! I came up with a solution that helps me on the eyes :)
 
 

 
 
 
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