How I am using Mix Recall

I do exactly that when mastering, only I use exclusive solo mode to do it. Makes it easier to compare more than two variants.

John T
I do exactly that when mastering, only I use exclusive solo mode to do it. Makes it easier to compare more than two variants.

Ok I'm going to learn something new. What is Exclusive Solo?
 
Walt

John T....
 
All you need to become an expert master miester are:
 
Good Ears
Good Reproduction Systems (not those, all us muso's have that)
Good Software
Good Environment (Room)
and I say it again,
GOOD EARS
 
I do NOT consider myself a good Mastering Engineer but when it comes to fishin, I can bait them with the best.
 
But, back OT....
 
I think that the mix recall feature is one of the best new features we get in SONAR... makes what you said much easier than all that file administrative stuff... in my old world (more on the model of the old days of once the desk got changed there was no going back) this feature will be a game changer for me.... that is, once I think I like a mix (create a scene), then when I play around to make it better, I can at least go back and do some A/B comparisons and see if my tinkering actually made it better or worse (tomorrow, not today).  If worse, back to the A mix, if better, save as the new A mix. Today, once I start tinkering the last turn of a knob is my current mix and there is NO going back.
 
Good stuff,
Jim
 
 

Interesting about the A/B stuff. That wasn't my immediate thought of what to do with Mix Recall. I saw it more as an efficient way of trying out different broad approaches. I personally don't even want to A/B different mixes in that way, though I can see why someone would.
 

Woody....
 
I am moving to Seattle in a few months (for retirement) and plan to purchase a home either on Bainbridge Island or Issaquah.  The home MUST have an secondary house that I am going to convert into my studio/man cave (you get the idea).
 
I also don't think you need to go to school to become an engineer as long as you have good ears and learn how to use the tools you have.  The equations go like this:  Good Equipment + Not so Good Ears = Not so good mixes,  Bad equipment + Good Ears = Good Mixes, Good Equipment + Good Ears = Great Mixes.
 
It does help though if you learn the basics of audio.. for example, back in the real old days, artificial space was created on mixes using tape delays that were synced to the tempo of the song and panned hard left and hard right... sounded amazing and everything went through these delays (including the bass and the drums).  Guys that showed me this did NOT go to school but years later, the professors came up with a name for this psyhco acoustic effect that they now teach you in school. I forgot the what they named it but it actually creates a sense of space in the mix and the wrong notes created by the delay fall right under the new notes so you don't hear the notes but you can hear the space.
 
Back then, they used a couple of reel to reel tape decks with 30 foot tape loops wrapped all around the studio and they would just let them run while they were mixing and using them as a send and they had a couple of returns for the left and right output (that were panned hard left and hard right)... it sounded amazing compared to the recorded tracks and many many recordings in the early 70's used this technique... I promise you, none of these guys went to audio schools but they were engineers to me.  To your point though, there must be tons of studios in Seattle with its legacy, you just need to find out where they are and NETWORK.
 
Good luck,
Jim 

JKLEBAN Yes, Seattle has great music network if you know some people or know how to look for it. I don't actually live in Seattle tho, I'm about 2 1/2 hrs away in Yakima county where there is almost No music industry at all in that general area. I'm currently in the Army and stationed in Georgia so right now I am working out of Georgia in a Barracks room ha. My artist email me their songs tracked out for mixing. But I will be back in Washington next October time frame when my active duty contract is up and most likely will be up in Seattle area.
 
To your point, i definitely understand you on that. You can't really reach mixing very well. You can learn it all and if you just don't have the ears for it it'll never be great. Back in the day they had to be creative because they don't have the tools we have these days at our disposal. By learning about the old ways though it really helps understand how all these newer methods essentially work. Which is what schools teach more of. HOW effects actually work and what not and fundamentals. You can train ears to an extent but essentially its all in experience/creativity and your ability to manipulate your tools. I am a younger engineer, no where near retiring ha. Most music i work with is hip-hop/r&b style. Although i do get bands every now and again. Perhaps in future, we can collaborate if we happen to be around same area