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[Implemented] - PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked

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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/02/10 13:23:23 (permalink)
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    Anybody able to repro?

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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/02/10 13:56:01 (permalink)
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    I think the key here is that clicking on the note is actually changing the active track - which triggers the same bug as in CRBRN-30907.
     
    So this is probably a duplicate...
    I suspect that Drum Maps + more than one track is required to repro.
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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/02/10 14:00:17 (permalink)
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    Thanks.
     
    I've edited the subject title to remove [CWBRN-31100]. When somebody else confirms it is an issue here we can put it back in. It just helps us sort out the threads in these forums this way.
     
    Thanks.

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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/02/12 14:47:59 (permalink)
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    Well I think I followed this correctly and I cannot reproduce in Platinum. What version are your using?
    Thanks...

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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/02/12 16:36:41 (permalink)
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    SONAR Platinum 32-bit Build 25.0.1 256
    I wonder if you need the track list visible (on the right side) in order to make it happen? Or something like that?
     
    When I get back to the studio I'll review my steps and see if I can work up a more comprehensive "first principles" repro sequence.
     
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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/02/12 17:01:45 (permalink)
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    I'm on 21.00,01 build 254. I am running 64 bit you are running 32 bit.
     
    Could you write down steps like this?
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3172808


    I appreciate the video but I think it would be clearer..
    Also check for updates in CCC.
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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/02/12 20:10:49 (permalink)
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    Could you write down steps like this?
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3172808




    Sure, but they are in the problem report I originally filled out, CWBRN-31100. (I'll have to check when I get back into the studio tonight.) I appreciate what you're doing, Alex, but can you set us straight on what the official and recommended process is for logging problem is?
     
    Do we come here first and document the steps, and only submit a problem report using the Cakewalk Reporter app when we get some confirmation? I thought it was the other way around, is all.
     
    I will post exact steps here later tonight.
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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/02/12 20:21:50 (permalink)
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    Check the forum handbook (top thread).


    The reality is that you can submit any time you like in the problem reporter, but it's probably best you wait until somebody else can validate it or Cakewalk says go ahead and do it.

    Cakewalk Developers/QA are likely to pay more attention to your issue if somebody else is able to reproduce it. Also if it turns out to be a system specific issue it's probably not worth bothering developers/QA, rather it's better you contact support so they can prioritize on fixing other bugs.
     
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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/02/12 21:27:42 (permalink)
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    Steps to reproduce:
    • new project
    • add instance of Session Drummer (stereo output, midi track)
    • change the output of the MIDI track (track 2) to New Drum Map > Session Drummer
    • Should say "4-DM1-Session Drummer 2"
    • CLone the MIDI track #2 twice
    • Color the three MIDI tracks differently for clarity
    • Add a clip of MIDI notes to each track
    • Select all three tracks and choose View > Piano Roll
    • Select one of the tracks
    • Resize the Note Pane so that it is not visible

     
    Now:
    • Either click on a note from other than the currently selected track (e.g. the RED one), or
    • Select a different track in the right-hand side Track Pane (Blue or Red)
    Result:
    Note Pane reappears, even if it covers the note you just clicked on. Any time you change tracks (perhaps by clicking in the Track View) the Note pane will re-appear.
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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/02/12 21:35:41 (permalink)
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    Oh no wonder I could not repro!
     
    OK will check when I have time or maybe somebody will get there before me...
     
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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/02/13 18:10:56 (permalink)
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    Without getting too complicated, yes, changing the focused track, either by clicking in the tracks pane or by selecting a note on a different track, resets keyboard pane, controller pane and potentially drum pane dividers to their last saved position. "Last saved" can mean any of:
     
    1. You saved the project.
    2. You set the pane dividers with the PRV undocked and unfloated (i.e. MDI mode window)
    3. You closed the PRV after making changes to dividers and opened a new one.
     
    There may be some additional complications/exceptions to this (for example, the keyboard pane resets on the first focus change, but the controller pane doesn't reset until the second focus change), but that's been my general observation.
     
    All this assumes the tracks are not in folders which can interfere with focus changes, potentially complicating this issue.

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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/02/13 18:47:02 (permalink)
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    OMG Dave... your level of knowledge and history of SONAR never ceases to amaze me.
     
    Based on your post it seems that manually saving the project after setting up a specific view is the best "workaround" for folks like me who do not use the PRV enough to remember its nuances?

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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/02/13 19:08:40 (permalink)
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    Ha! Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! I just happened to be looking into this last night. 
     
    Google represents about 80% of my "memory".
     
    Let me know if anything I said doesn't check out. This stuff can be very elusive.

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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/02/13 19:15:30 (permalink)
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    Dave are you confirming the issue in Platinum? Thanks..

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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/02/14 02:42:08 (permalink)
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    Yes, confirmed. Also I'm finding this one is hard to fix by any of the methods I outlined, but I have some projects with drum mapped tracks that don't exhibit this problem, so it must be possible.
     
    And be aware that the exact result you get will vary with the resolution of your monitor.
     
     

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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/02/14 08:19:19 (permalink)
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    Thanks...

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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/02/27 15:59:42 (permalink)
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    I can confirm that this is fixed in the SONAR 2015.02 "Braintree" update.
     
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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/03/02 21:18:14 (permalink)
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    Thanks.

    As per forum handbook subject title needs '[Implemented] - ' added to it and this thread will need to be locked.

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    Re: PRV with Drum Map shows Key Pane when note clicked - CWBRN-31100 2015/03/03 10:48:19 (permalink)
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    Subject title now altered. Can a forum host please lock thread as per forum guidelines? Many thanks.

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