No Pentagon in Platinum

It's listed As being available, both as a vsti and as a Dxi, but trying to insert either brings Sonar down.
 
It doesn't crash, but I just get the spinning blue ball which never stops. Sonar has to be killed via Task Manager.
 
Loading a project containing Pentagon prompts a "Missing Plugin" message.
 
There are multiple keys for Pentagon in the Registry
 
So any ideas how to get it back?
 
Thanks in advance.

Thanks Steve.
 
Strangely enough, I've just tried it on my other machine and it works as it should.
 
Must be a permissions problem surely?

scook
 The synth is no longer bundled with SONAR.

Are you sure about that?  The comparison chart on the cake website doesn't list it but the description for Platinum Instrument Collection in CCC lists it.

I thought I'd have a play to see what happens. X3 Producer loads the DX version but Platinum sees it but won't load it, I get a pop up stating "Failed to load...". 
I don't appear to have a VST version.
 
Grum.

Edit: I downloaded the "pack " that contains the synth from the Command Centre to get it to work in Platinum and the same thing happened.

I tried loading Pentagon 1 and it failed to load. After running as administrator it loaded.  Nice one Scook. 

Any idea why it's no longer bundled with SONAR? I thought it was cool, and the only way to get a Vocoder effect without going third party.

Yeah, I find it to be a shame that Cakewalk seems to have ditched Pentagon in the latest version of SONAR.  It's a reason I still have X3 installed.  Hopefully, Cakewalk will either return it by popular demand, or give us "Pentagon II" that could be an improvement (32 & 64-bit native) over I.
 
Apparently the synth still has its uses as a cool vocoder.

I had a HUGE problem with Pentagon when I upgraded to Win7/64. Had the DX and the purchased version and projects that still had it in there wouldn't work at all, and they crashed like crazy. 

I prefer Pentagon to both Z3ta and Rapture even though those synths are more powerful. I am a sucker for the traditional analogue synth emulations.
 
Maybe it will turn up as a free legacy synth like Square?

Brando, I'm with you.  I think Cake (or somebody) has a huge opening with the demise of Alchemy, the kind of Frankensynth that melds different synth methods together in one interface.  Gawd knows we don't need another VA (tho for Cake's sake the upgraded pentagon [which I never really liked for some reason] should be included for a more vintage sound).  But lets face it, anybody who has been involved in computer recording needs and has an acoustic emulation synth (including a drum synth), like a soft Yamaha Motif or Fantom or some such.  Most need a VA.  RApt Pro seems to fit that bill (except for drum synth - even I usually use more than 6 drums).  Rapt had some nice VA samples, great filters, etc. but is much more cutting than most "real" VAs, which have a softer, maybe duller tone (but I mean that in a good way).
 
What would get my panties in a wad is a synth that you loaded in samples and could use a granular- type performance engine on it.  And wave table sequencing.  Those go together like additive and FM (yet another synth for Cake!).  At some point I'm going to have to replace what Alchemy can do, I'd prefer Cakewalk over the next guy.
 
FL Studio a few years ago got Max Claster (sp) to do a line of synths - Toxic Biohazard, an additive, etc.  It didn't really take off but they were nice and cheap (-$100 I believe).  One way for Cake to expand its audience horizon from primarily guitarists w/ a PC to more electronic musicians would be such a line of synths.  Of course, they tried that w/ P5 but then abandoned it (at the time I thought that was going to be rough to have 2 DAWs from one company).  What is funny is that SONAR has morphed toward P5 in many ways and the X-series (and Beyond!) tried to simplify the look, much like P5, but without the new engine.
 
Anyway, I like the new synth (or will, I'm sure, unless Cake messed up more than ever before), and the price seems right.  I"m betting that the new features (all kinds of touch pads), new samples and presets and the ability to load in one synth and switch between Dimension presets and Rapt presets will make it worthwhile.
 
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Yeah I miss it. Pentagon just had a great sound and was dirt simple to use. Plus, like Craig said, VOCODER!
 

I just installed Pentagon 1 with my Sonar X3 setup files to add it to my Platinum installation.
You can choose custom install then only select Pentagon and not even install X3 or anything else.
 
After that:
Open regedit.exe
Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\rgc:audio
Software\Dxi\Pentagon I
Right click on the Pentagon I folder and select
permissions
Set the permission for group users to allow full access and
click ok

charlyg
I just don't see the creativity in making a sound no one has heard before, or at least compared to making a new to everyone song.

Don't worry Charly, we're not all the same, and that has to be good, yes?
 
There is nothing wrong in sticking with what you know and like best, and if you want to broaden your musical horizons a bit too, then there's nothing wrong with that either.
 
I'm listening to stuff in the Songs forum that I simply wouldn't b other to back at home... It makes a change to hear what other people are doing and take a trip into genres that one wouldn't normally bother to.
 
 
cheers
 
andy 

Well, an example of something outside of my genres is El Perdon, the cover that is over in the Songs forum. I had a great time watching that video. The performer's demeanor had more to do with my enjoyment of the song than the techno/electronica bits. And listening to the changes after the advice was a great learning experience as well.