Helpful ReplySonar Platinum supports VS-100 surface controls? [Solved thru Hacking]

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2015/01/25 12:24:49 (permalink)

Sonar Platinum supports VS-100 surface controls? [Solved thru Hacking]

SOLVED: Copy all VS-xxx from Registry from the Sonar X3 Install (for me was an antique computer with Sonar X3 64Bits installed) and VS-XXX.DLL from Program Files/Cakewalk/Shared Surfaces/  to the fresh install on a new computer. Loading all registry entries and copying the DLL will work like a charm.

*If you need more detailed info, please, ask, I will try to do a step-by-step and share my registry/DLL.. I only have the VS-100, if you have the VS-20, VS-700 and want to help others, let´s share the registry/dlls..

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Hi, My Sonar Platinum don't list it in the surface controls the VS-100 (or any other VS-*), does it support it and my install is corrupted? It add as midi interface, but the screen about surfasse there[s no VS-* at the drop down menu. just the Mackie ..
 
Prior it I was using music Creator 6 with the VS-100 as surfasse control with no problem, my other notebook had the Sonar X3 Producer with the VS-100 with no problem.
 
In Sonar platinum, it don't list the VS-* options at Surface control List, I can add as a midi interface, but not as control.
 
please, help :)
 
*I already re-installed all Sonar Platinum Package.
post edited by francoml - 2015/02/05 05:42:34
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Re: Sonar Platinum supports VS-100 surface controls? 2015/01/25 12:38:46 (permalink)
My VS-100 is working as I expect it with Sonar Platinum (audio and control surface).  It isn't clear to me from your post what is not working for you.  Have you installed the VS-100 driver to match your computer's Operating System?
 
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Re: Sonar Platinum supports VS-100 surface controls? 2015/01/25 18:28:33 (permalink)
Hi Glen, it works as sound module and midi interface at Sonar Platinum.
It doesnt work as surface control, because the Sonar platinum isnt showing an option to select the vs100 at the surface control list, just list Mackie. My install might be corrupted.
Thank you so much for your answer, I will uninstall all drivers and programs and try again.

Best regards,Franco
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Re: Sonar Platinum supports VS-100 surface controls? 2015/01/30 19:29:26 (permalink)
Hi, please, I formatted my WIndows 8.1 64bits, re-installed from Scratch Sonar Platinum, still not listing at surface control the VS-100.

I have installed the latest drivers, it works really fine as audio interface, it recognizes VS as MIDI and Control, BUT at the Surface Control Setup, the Sonar Platinum List doesn´t show up VS-100 at the list (as Sonar X3 shows up)... It only lists Mackie and Generic Cakewalk Surface Control.
 
Please, how you selected your VS- at the Control Surface? There was an option at the list with the name VS-700?
 
best regards, Franco
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Re: Sonar Platinum supports VS-100 surface controls? 2015/01/31 08:48:11 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby francoml 2015/02/05 05:43:22
Do you have it set as input and output in the MIDI preferences?

 
This gives me:


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Re: Sonar Platinum supports VS-100 surface controls? 2015/02/04 07:18:17 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby francoml 2015/02/05 05:47:21
I have the exact same problem here. I assume if Sonar X3 is on your PC, Sonar Platinum will show all control surfaces that are available in X3. But with a clean install it doesn't support it anymore.

I think Gibson erased all previous connections with Roland...
 
Also there is no Sonar LE included with new Roland interfaces anymore, so I assume the cooperation between Roland and Cakewalk is completely over.
 
Let's hope that Roland will release a control surface plugin for Sonar and other DAW's.
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Re: Sonar Platinum supports VS-100 surface controls? 2015/02/04 12:09:28 (permalink)
Sonar Platinum does NOT support VS-100, you must have pre-installed the Sonar X3 to use the older configuration... That´s Sad... 
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I didn´t had this info, I´ve formatted the PC to do a clean install and fix it, but no Vs-100 on the surface listing.. :(
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Now I will install Sonar X3, then Install Sonar Platinum... WTF!
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Re: Sonar Platinum supports VS-100 surface controls? 2015/02/05 03:19:32 (permalink)
I also send a mail to Cakewalk, so maybe there is a solution?

I hope there will be a response soon!
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Re: Sonar Platinum supports VS-100 surface controls? 2015/02/05 05:38:31 (permalink)
I´ve posted a FEATURE REQUEST, please, anyone with the VS Interface should ask too, they must know thet is important to Sonar Platinum support VS-XXX hardware.
 
 
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Re: Sonar Platinum supports VS-100 surface controls? 2015/02/06 15:03:42 (permalink)
Just wondering if this also needs to be installed http://www.rolandus.com/support/knowledge_base/201975989
It is the control surface driver for the VS-100from the Roland site, but actually redirected to the Cakewalk site.
 
Glen

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Re: Sonar Platinum supports VS-100 surface controls? 2015/02/06 20:33:24 (permalink)
Yes I am dealing with the same thing here. I don't want to install Sonar X3 on my PC. I just did a clean install. What was cake thinking? a lot of people use that audio interface. why get rid of the surface control options in platinum? I will submit a feature request and see where that leads. Hopefully now that we are all members this will be addressed soon.

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Midi Controllers=Edirol  PCR 800, roland GR-55.    

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Re: Sonar Platinum supports VS-100 surface controls? 2015/02/07 13:28:09 (permalink)
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Just wondering if this also needs to be installed http://www.rolandus.com/support/knowledge_base/201975989
It is the control surface driver for the VS-100from the Roland site, but actually redirected to the Cakewalk site.
 
Glen




Thank you Glen, we have installed the latest VS drivers from Roland, but the truth is: CakeWalk Platinum doesn´t have support anymore to VS-XXX surface controls... if you do a new Sonar Platinum Install and VS-XXX driver install, you won´t see in the Surface list the VS-XXXX as options.. that´s why we need to hack and ask at the feature request.
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Re: Sonar Platinum supports VS-100 surface controls? 2015/02/08 10:50:21 (permalink)
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gcolbert
Just wondering if this also needs to be installed http://www.rolandus.com/support/knowledge_base/201975989
It is the control surface driver for the VS-100from the Roland site, but actually redirected to the Cakewalk site.
 
Glen




Thank you Glen, we have installed the latest VS drivers from Roland, but the truth is: CakeWalk Platinum doesn´t have support anymore to VS-XXX surface controls... if you do a new Sonar Platinum Install and VS-XXX driver install, you won´t see in the Surface list the VS-XXXX as options.. that´s why we need to hack and ask at the feature request.




I don't know why there is no support for the vs line. After all, The hardware says cakewalk not Roland. Even if Roland made the vs line you would think that cakewalk would still support it in their software due to their name brand being listed on the hardware.
 
I suspect that there may be some legal reason for this. In any event the problem is solved by clicking on the link that Glen provided and downloading the plugin. Thank You Glen!

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Re: Sonar Platinum supports VS-100 surface controls? 2015/02/08 13:49:03 (permalink)
Glen, thanks much
 
Clint
 
 
BTW I just downloaded Platinum on Friday and am going to install it today.  You saved what hair I have left.

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And away we go!
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Re: Sonar Platinum supports VS-100 surface controls? 2015/02/09 10:18:56 (permalink)
Marcus Curtis
I suspect that there may be some legal reason for this.

For VS-X00, as well as for any other hardware control surface for SONAR, there are 2 different types of "drivers":
  1. Windows system drivers, so the device is recognized by the system and presented to (any) software as a MIDI device. I do not think CW has/had something to do with that code. This driver is closely bound to the hardware and it's firmware and it is not SONAR specific.
  2. Control Surface plug-in in SONAR. That is what you see in the "Control Surfaces" preferences. This program (dll) is SONAR specific. It is Open Source (for VS-X00 devices) under MIT license, so it can be distributed and/or modified by anyone without future license agreements.
I expect that in case of general problems (future Windows versions support, drivers crash, unrecognized devices, freezes, etc.) the only support company is Roland. For SONAR specific problems (something does not work as expected in SONAR, new SONAR features, etc.) CW can provide support independent from Roland.
 
In fact the same is true for all other devices. For example, ACT MIDI plug-in is CW creation. But CW is not responsible for system drivers of any particular device which can work with it.
 

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