Drone7 
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Sonar Plugin Updates
Does anyone know if Sonar automatically includes the very latest version of all it's third-party plugins like the Nomad factory Blue Tubes and Melodyne and REmatrix Verb etc?
I notice there are sometimes updates to these plugins at the manufacturer's website, so i want to know if Cakewalk automatically integrate these latest versions without us having to do it ourselves and keep track of them all.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 12:33:11
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Do not know I just sent them an email and asked them let us see what they have to say.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 12:43:07
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Yeah, please let us know.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 12:45:53
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Melodyne is a separate install and it handles its updates separately. You'll get a notice when you open it if there's an update. For the BlueTubes I don't know, it honestly never occurred to me, they all work fine.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 14:09:48
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They may work fine, but I still like to know if there's any updates available. Updates are usually released for important reasons. Is it basically our responsibility to keep tabs on this, or does Cakewalk take care of it? For instance, the Nomad Factory Blue Tubes Bundle was released with Sonar more than one year ago, so has Cakewalk automatically obtained the latest versions for inclusion in this latest release of Sonar? Even if Cakewalk only took care of this annually, that would put me at ease.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 14:32:18
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@Drone7, I believe the answer is no, Sonar doesn't attempt to push updates for products they bundle with Sonar like Nomad plugs, Blue Cat, Melodyne etc. For most, there is a way to check for updates, but Nomad doesn't make it too obvious as to whether you need to update. They just give the date of the most recent installer. BlueTubes=Nomad and you can download the installer from here... http://www.nomadfactory.com/downloads/index.html I have a license for their integral plugin pack and I just downloaded the latest installer for Windows and re-installed. Then Rescanned VSTs in Sonar. I did not have to re-authorize the plugins after doing this (by that I mean drag the license file to the plugin). You may find you have to go through the installer and tick each plugin you want to update, which looks to be a pain. This was the link I used for the 64 bit install for Nomad listed under 'Other Nomad Factory Software'... http://nomadfactory.com/cgi-bin/_dlpro/download.cgi?Download&file=NFpcVST64 Update details here... http://www.nomadfactory.com/faq/pluginfo/updates.html
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 14:40:10
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Several of the BT suite plugins are now discontinued.
It would be a very strange software company that updated discontinued products
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 14:48:04
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StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 14:50:22
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Bristol_Jonesey
Several of the BT suite plugins are now discontinued.
Do you know which ones are discontinued and why? Does this mean the BT plugins are garbage? Seems strange that they are discontinued.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 14:55:09
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Drone7, I get the feeling that you're out here trying to spin every little bit of info about Sonar in the most negative way possible. Is there a reason for that?
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Drone7
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 15:10:31
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Sanderxpander
Drone7, I get the feeling that you're out here trying to spin every little bit of info about Sonar in the most negative way possible. Is there a reason for that?
What you're feeling (as you put it) is not consistent with the facts, so why are you saying it?? If you would take the time to quote in here my last 50 posts, I think people will see you seem to be getting a false impression. The legs on your horse seem a little long, try cutting them off at the knee so you can see more clearly. I don't appreciate you making something out of nothing. I give fair praise and criticisms on both sides of the fence, so what is there to explain? I suggest you get your facts straight before acting like the Gestapo.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 15:19:14
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Whoa, what a classy reply :)
Guess that says enough.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 15:30:48
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When I saw this thread and read it I was thinking that is a good question. I don't know the answer but I'm glad Wookiee is looking into it. The other answers are great as far as I am concerned.
I can understand the point Sanderxpander was making but I don't think there is any agenda by the OP in asking.
Its a good question and should be seen in that light.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 15:37:06
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I think it was a good question too, see my first reply in this very thread.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 15:48:32
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Sanderxpander
Whoa, what a classy reply :)
Guess that says enough.
And for the record, IMO Sonar is the best DAW currently available, and the best value for money too.
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Sanderxpander
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 16:03:38
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Ok, thanks for clarifying. I'll clarify too; I don't mind if you don't like Sonar. There have just been a few threads that made it seem as if you were eager to jump to a negative conclusion, which ultimately prompted my question.
I'll put my Gestapo boots back on now (great reference by the way!) and climb up on my kneecapped too high horse and stumble off into the sunset. Have a good day.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 16:12:45
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Sanderxpander
Ok, thanks for clarifying. I'll clarify too; I don't mind if you don't like Sonar. There have just been a few threads that made it seem as if you were eager to jump to a negative conclusion, which ultimately prompted my question.
I'll put my Gestapo boots back on now (great reference by the way!) and climb up on my kneecapped too high horse and stumble off into the sunset. Have a good day.
Lol. No need to stumble off, I was merely stating my case. Your humility is duely noted.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 16:16:30
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It seems to me that people here in the forum ( including Hosts) are getting very long toes and somehow get the feeling that they are getting stept on with every post on the forum.
I see that we now have platinum and not a lot of problems after the launch which makes me HAPPY. Not one crash yet.
Don't look for the negatives in the posts, but try to understand what the poster is trying to say. You only need one word to mess up the whole meaning of the OP.
All this commotion is not worth the $149.00 we paid for.
Don't worry, Be HAPPY !!
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Drone7
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 16:35:09
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cowboydan
It seems to me that people here in the forum ( including Hosts) are getting very long toes and somehow get the feeling that they are getting stept on with every post on the forum.
I see that we now have platinum and not a lot of problems after the launch which makes me HAPPY. Not one crash yet.
Don't look for the negatives in the posts, but try to understand what the poster is trying to say. You only need one word to mess up the whole meaning of the OP.
All this commotion is not worth the $149.00 we paid for.
Don't worry, Be HAPPY !!
The bottom-line is that Sonar as a DAW competitor is a pure street brawler. Cakewalk has every right to stand proud. The other companies like Apple, Steinberg and Avid and Presonus have extremely big wallets to rely on, and yet in ten years Cakewalk has stood down to none of them, very impressive! On your other point, maybe Cakewalk should designate one forum host to be the negativity police, that way we would accept admonitions more readily without undue commotion because we would know it's their specific job/function, and that would allow the other forum hosts to engage more easily without the need to focus on warnings.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 16:45:37
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On your other point, maybe Cakewalk should designate one forum host to be the negativity police, that way we would accept admonitions more readily without undue commotion or causing too much angst because we would know it's their specific job/function, and that would allow the other forum hosts to engage more easily without the need to focus on warnings.
When I see that we are not readily excepting what the forum hosts are doing now , I would think that the one forum host for negativity wouldn't have a life anymore.
I think that we should except the forum hosts and all that they are trying to do so that we have a decent forum to come to and not have to fight our way through all the garbage.
We all have to learn how to confront the misunderstandings with a little more understanding.
Anyway, thats what I think.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 17:04:36
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cowboydan said "When I see that we are not readily excepting what the forum hosts are doing now , I would think that the one forum host for negativity wouldn't have a life anymore"
Sure he would; he could still interact as normal, but we would all understand that he has the right to be firm and come down hard any time he sees fit to deal with apparent undue excessive negativity, and Cakewalk admin would have the final word if it ever gets that far. That way we wouldn't feel like there's so many to be wary of as it is now.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 17:10:22
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It's all in the mind. We'll live.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 17:14:09
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cowboydan
It's all in the mind. We'll live.
True, but some people have be banned for life in the past. That's not "all in the mind”
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 17:54:07
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Another day, another thread turning into host discussion in the Sonar forums.
I've actually invented a drinking game for this now...
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 18:04:27
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Alex, you're in the clear! Sanderxpander is the 'Gestapo' today.
Sometimes references like that upset me because they so undersell how truly terrible the Nazis were.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 18:13:27
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cowboydan
It's all in the mind. We'll live.
True, but some people have be banned for life in the past. That's not "all in the mind”
Some people were put in prison for more than half of their life before the judges found out they were innocent. And then................. If your feelings were hurt because you were banned, thats one thing. Not being able to move, think, eat, enjoy life are another. Here they have no Golden Globe awards to give out. You were lucky. You were just banned. The last members were shot and buried.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/01 18:15:24
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Drone7
Sanderxpander
Drone7, I get the feeling that you're out here trying to spin every little bit of info about Sonar in the most negative way possible. Is there a reason for that?
What you're feeling (as you put it) is not consistent with the facts, so why are you saying it?? If you would take the time to quote in here my last 50 posts, I think people will see you seem to be getting a false impression. The legs on your horse seem a little long, try cutting them off at the knee so you can see more clearly. I don't appreciate you making something out of nothing. I give fair praise and criticisms on both sides of the fence, so what is there to explain? I suggest you get your facts straight before acting like the Gestapo.
This reply seems to prove Sanderxpanders point, not yours.
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/02 12:00:48
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Drone7
Yeah, please let us know.
No reply so far from their support department. 2nd Feb 2015 17:00 local time
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/02 13:19:51
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Re: Sonar Plugin Updates
2015/02/02 13:36:51
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Drone7
Does anyone know if Sonar automatically includes the very latest version of all it's third-party plugins like the Nomad factory Blue Tubes and Melodyne and REmatrix Verb etc?
I notice there are sometimes updates to these plugins at the manufacturer's website, so i want to know if Cakewalk automatically integrate these latest versions without us having to do it ourselves and keep track of them all.
I think that Cakewalk freezes what is included from 3rd-party included components at some point in their development/testing process, and that makes sense if you think about it, because otherwise they would have to test everything all over again prior to publishing a release - otherwise known as a Release To Manufacturing. In the case of X3's initial release, they were able to include their first set of updates with it - just how it all worked out. Generally, you would have to manually go check for updates from the various authors of the 3rd-part components. Bob Bone
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