Odd probem with MIDI and X1

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2015/02/01 18:01:23 (permalink)

Odd probem with MIDI and X1

Hi. I've been a Cakewalk user for years and years and have always been able to find the answers to my questions on the forums, the owners manual, or figuring it out for myself. I am just now starting to use X1 due to being out of the sequencing game for three years, I had just bought the X1 software and never even installed it. So I want to get some use out of it anyway.

The flow is a lot different than I'm used to but I'm slowly working it through my system of getting things done. But I have a very strange problem with overdubbing MIDI. What happens is, the audio that I hear is not matching the audio on the screen, or to be more precise, the MIDI tracks that I am looking at. This would be used for doing punch-ins after an error that I might have made playing. I'm doing this 'overdubbing' the same MIDI track with the same VSTi instrument but I don't see why that should make a difference. The last time it happened the delay was exactly one measure off...
I hope this makes sense and I hope that someone would be able to help me figure out what could be happening here.
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    Re: Odd probem with MIDI and X1 2015/02/01 18:47:50 (permalink)
    Hi, You should always list your system and audio interface so we don't have to ask. Because a lot depends on your system set up. 
     
    Midi delay is often caused by certain "look ahead" plug ins. By pass all plug ins while recording. 
     
    You are aware that if you make a mistake you can edit in piano view? 
     
    And to punch in a track using the auto punch in feature is the way to go so your hands are free to play your instrument. 
     
    And now is a good time to upgrade to the latest version. X1 was not the best release of Sonar and had a few issues. If you are a registered user you can pick up professional for only $99. 

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    Re: Odd probem with MIDI and X1 2015/02/02 02:02:16 (permalink)
    Hi Johnny. I appreciate your response.
    The only MIDI plug-in that I have used recently that I've not used before is their quantize plug-in. I don't think that I had it on the tracks this is happened to, but I might be wrong. I often am.
    As for my system, I am using a home built computer system with an AMD FX 8250 processor, and ASRock 970 Extreme 3 revision 2.0. No overclocking. For audio I am using a PreSonus Firebox which does not work with Windows 8, so I'm using Windows 7 with all the updates. For a MIDI controller I use a Graphite 49. Unlike earlier controllers, the graphite 49 has a USB MIDI out that plugs in and works. As for software drivers for my soundcard, I am using the ASIO4ALL drivers with acceptable results.
    When I installed X1 I was careful to get all of the updates and yet this is the least satisfying time between us – Cakewalk/Sonar and me. I find the midi editing harder than it needs to be, but, I'm coming from Cakewalk 8.5 and it's just a lot different than I remembered it being. I never had these kinds of problems on the way back in the earliest days of Cakewalk 5. Something seems buggy for sure.
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    Re: Odd probem with MIDI and X1 2015/02/02 02:23:35 (permalink)
    AlanRichards
     The last time it happened the delay was exactly one measure off...



    This has more often (but still rarely) been reported with recording audio, and is usually related to the metronome count-in. Try disabling the the count-in.
     
    EDIT: And make sure you have the X1d update installed:
     
    http://www.cakewalk.com/S...13277/SONAR-X1d-Update

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    Re: Odd probem with MIDI and X1 2015/02/02 18:17:51 (permalink)
    Brundlefly, I think you are right.I'll let you know.
     
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    Re: Odd probem with MIDI and X1 2015/02/02 23:44:27 (permalink)
    For audio I am using a PreSonus Firebox,   am using the ASIO4ALL drivers with acceptable results.
     
    Why aren't you using the proper ASIO drivers? 

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