Pro Tools 11.3.1 released

no 12 yet, but they are certainly keeping
this version maintained....that's a good thing...

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ampfixer
I was in a music store yesterday and asked them what was going to be new in version 12. All I got was a chuckle and the reply "the payment method".

Yeah, it looks that way.  But there are some users that are excited about a rumor of "Track Freeze" coming.  Good grief, excitement over one little improvement?  
 
Anyway, I'm standing pat at PT11 until I see a benefit to upgrading.  

Track freeze is a lot less relevant now that we have faster than real time bounce. It also depends on the implementation of the idea. In Sonar, it's extremely well thought and very useful.
 
In Logic, I never use it because you can't do a thing with a frozen track - everything is locked except volume and pan. You can't copy a frozen clip or add effects or whatever. On the other hand, "Bounce in Place" works just as quick and I've come to prefer it.
 
I'm curious to see how AVID will implement the concept.

I've never had the HD features to miss since I got on the band wagon with PT 11 native. I was waiting till PT was 64 bit before I even looked at it and it took two tries before I started liking it.

The biggest thing I miss is the automatic muting of audio tracks when recording. This has to be an intentional dumbing down of the native versions in order to maintain the need for their hardware products. Luckily 3rd party developers stepped in with support software like AuotMute so I can record and monitor through my sound card's outputs.

I'd like to sit down with someone who has worked with VCAs in that environment so that they could show me what I'm missing in that regard. I've never knew that I was being held back in that regard.

mudgel
 Not that it's any more powerful it's just more difficult to use.

I don't find this to be the case.  The workflow is different.  And, if you're coming
from another DAW with "preconceived" notions, then that will certainly make it 
more difficult.  All DAW's do the exact same thing.  They just go about it in different
ways with more or less features.  

Clear your mind.  Be open to learning new things and all will go smoothly.

We tend to get "stuck" with "only what I know".  You wouldn't "know" unless
you took the time to learn it.  This is why "What I Know" is now easy.
You've already passed the "learning curve" for Sonar, and that makes it
"seem" easier.  Someone coming from Pro Tools to Sonar would probably
feel the same way.  They'd be lost, because they'd expect to just "dive right
in", when that's simply not realistic.

I use 7 different DAW's, and they are all relatively simple to use,
even as "in depth" as they are, because I've taken the TIME to learn them.
It's the "HOW" that makes them different.

Remember...."There is NO SPOON"

Dave Modisette
Anyway, I'm standing pat at PT11 until I see a benefit to upgrading.  

You sound like so many dudes a few weeks back in the SONAR forum.

mudgel
Thanks Larry
You've said it much better than me.
My major question at the moment is really whether I should go the HD upgrade route or buy some cheap mBox hardware and get Avid express with upgrade to PT11 for about half the price.

Considering that with Sonar platinum the skies the limit. There are clear differences between PT 11 and PT HD11. Would I miss those extra features? I hope my questions make sense.

If you plan on using it as your MAIN MONEY MAKING SOFTWARE...then it would be worth the investment
to go HD, provided you have the hardware to run it...

By the time you buy an M-Box and then upgrade you're going to be real close to the price of the
HD Upgrade.

BTW...the new AAE in Pro Tools, with fast bounce, works very well...I've had exceptional results.

Seeing as that you already have 9 HD, I'd venture to say that the upgrade to 11 HD is the way to go...
You also get more features (one being better metering options) with 11 HD, so that can further help
"justify" the cost and you get the next upgrade free...but that's just my opinion...YMMV 

I sure wish I could get the Sonar Interface and workflow, the features of Cubase, and the widespread use 
of Pro Tools into ONE SOLID, STABLE DAW!!!  (hey - one can dream )

mudgel

cclarry

mudgel
Thanks Larry
You've said it much better than me.
My major question at the moment is really whether I should go the HD upgrade route or buy some cheap mBox hardware and get Avid express with upgrade to PT11 for about half the price.

Considering that with Sonar platinum the skies the limit. There are clear differences between PT 11 and PT HD11. Would I miss those extra features? I hope my questions make sense.

If you plan on using it as your MAIN MONEY MAKING SOFTWARE...then it would be worth the investment
to go HD, provided you have the hardware to run it...

By the time you buy an M-Box and then upgrade you're going to be real close to the price of the
HD Upgrade.

BTW...the new AAE in Pro Tools, with fast bounce, works very well...I've had exceptional results.

Seeing as that you already have 9 HD, I'd venture to say that the upgrade to 11 HD is the way to go...
You also get more features (one being better metering options) with 11 HD, so that can further help
"justify" the cost and you get the next upgrade free...but that's just my opinion...YMMV 

I sure wish I could get the Sonar Interface and workflow, the features of Cubase, and the widespread use 
of Pro Tools into ONE SOLID, STABLE DAW!!!  (hey - one can dream )

 
I'm retired these days but get offered one off jobs (Mixing and Mastering) all the time and now more than ever I could use PT even though I could manage it all in Sonar there is a bit of house keeping to do at times.
 
My issue is I'm not using any PTHD hardware and don't intend to just as per my signature. PTHD works fine without the Avid goodies. BUT in Australia the $599 translates to $770 whereas a little MBOX with PT11 xpress and upgrade to full PT 11 sets me back about $429. The difference is $350 which is quite a bit at the moment. What do you think

Mudgel,

Yes, that indeed is a quite a steep step up.  And if you don't have the hardware to take advantage 
of HD then it's really overkill.  
 
BTW...you can BUY IT OUTRIGHT at AudioDeluxe for $329.00 in cart price, which will save you
another $100+ dolllars...unless you really need the MBox...

https://audiodeluxe.com/products/avid-pro-tools-1011-bundle-download

Hope that helps...

Larry

Thanks. I've been in touch. Just waiting to hear back.

Not so sure. Difficult to work out all this transfers and such. He's selling an iLok licence. So where do I download the software from. Very confusing.

This guy says he thinks it's just an ilok transfer and has nothing to do with Avid. I'm thinking on f just giving it a miss altogether.