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Is pan not affected by pre/post-fader button when sending to a bus?
The send pre/post-fader button determines if track volume affects the overall send volume. I was expecting the same to be true for pan, but it doesn't seem to be, despite what the signal flow diagram indicates in help.
For example, if I pan a mono track hard right, it turns up in a bus as stereo unless I also set the send pan hard right, regardless of the pre/post setting. However, track volume does alter the bus signal if the setting is post.
Is it intended that the track pan works differently to track volume?
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Re: Is pan not affected by pre/post-fader button when sending to a bus?
2015/02/12 16:58:37
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☄ Helpfulby John T 2015/02/12 18:40:10
I think what you are looking for is this: Right-click the Send Pan control and choose Follow Track Pan from the pop-up menu. This setting is only active when the send has the same interleave as the bus that the send feeds into, and is set to Post Fader. If enabled, the Send Pan control no longer affects the output. PS: The help text in the link is incorrect. Changing that makes the send pan mirror the track pan settings not the target bus pan..
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Re: Is pan not affected by pre/post-fader button when sending to a bus?
2015/02/12 18:11:54
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So the send pan is actually a balance control between a buss and the main output?
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Re: Is pan not affected by pre/post-fader button when sending to a bus?
2015/02/12 18:39:43
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
I think what you are looking for is this:
Right-click the Send Pan control and choose Follow Track Pan from the pop-up menu. This setting is only active when the send has the same interleave as the bus that the send feeds into, and is set to Post Fader. If enabled, the Send Pan control no longer affects the output.
PS: The help text in the link is incorrect. Changing that makes the send pan mirror the track pan settings not the target bus pan..
I never knew that! That's handy.
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Re: Is pan not affected by pre/post-fader button when sending to a bus?
2015/02/12 18:41:04
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So the send pan is actually a balance control between a buss and the main output?
As I read it, it just tells the signal where to sit within its stereo destination. So for mono, same as track pan for a track feeding into (for example) the master bus.
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Re: Is pan not affected by pre/post-fader button when sending to a bus?
2015/02/12 19:33:46
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☄ Helpfulby gswitz 2015/02/12 21:10:16
The option tells the mixer which pan to look at when mixing in the send. When follow track pan is enabled it uses the track pan value, otherwise it uses the discrete send pan value.
If you don't need an independent send pan you should use follow track pan.
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Re: Is pan not affected by pre/post-fader button when sending to a bus?
2015/02/12 20:38:36
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Thanks Noel. I had always assumed the Track Pan affected the signal going to a bus. This might explain why I have trouble getting strong stereo images in mixes. Any effects applied using a send will, by default, be centered because I didn't know to change the Send Pan to match the Track Pan.
Is there any way to make the default behavior that the Send Pan follows the Track Pan?
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Re: Is pan not affected by pre/post-fader button when sending to a bus?
2015/02/12 21:06:56
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Re: Is pan not affected by pre/post-fader button when sending to a bus?
2015/02/12 22:41:20
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☄ Helpfulby PeterMc 2015/02/12 23:30:17
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Thanks Noel. I had always assumed the Track Pan affected the signal going to a bus. This might explain why I have trouble getting strong stereo images in mixes. Any effects applied using a send will, by default, be centered because I didn't know to change the Send Pan to match the Track Pan.
Is there any way to make the default behavior that the Send Pan follows the Track Pan?
Cheers, Peter.
Yes, Preferences | Configuration File Edit config file Find the line LinkSendPan=0 Change it to LinkSendPan=1 Save Reload Config Settings OK That should change the default for new projects
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Re: Is pan not affected by pre/post-fader button when sending to a bus?
2015/02/12 23:29:16
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Great - thanks. I was pretty confident there would be a setting to do this.
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