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2015/02/18 22:04:54 (permalink)
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Ducking...

An "easy to use" Ducking side chain plugin or a Ducking FX chain would be cool. 
I tried to use Waves Vocal rider once but waves has no side chain mode in Sonar to implement ducking. 
I can set it up with Alloy but its a pain and I can't seem to find anything on the market.
 
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    Re: Ducking... 2015/02/18 22:23:26 (permalink)
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    Starting with X3, Waves sidechain is supported because SONAR implemented VST3. SONAR Platinum also bundles the the sidechain capable PC4K S-Type Bus Compressor, Sonitus Compressor and Gate. Check out the video SONAR: Go Deeper - ProChannel Sidechaining. FWIW, the Sonitus Compressor and Gate have supported sidechaining since SONAR 7. Here is the knowledge base article about it.
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    Re: Ducking... 2015/02/18 23:26:47 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the info scook...
    I'm more less asking for something that is setup for ducking as apposed to a technique that I can't get my artist's head around, so if there was a tool to just pluged in.
     
    I have tried the Sonitus compressor for ducking as well, I don't get it.
    I can at least see what's going on in Alloy but it's still a pain to use.
    It all still just racks my head...  ha!
     
    and ya, I still don't see where the waves side chain feature is accessible in Platinum, could just be me. lol!
     
    I will have to revisits this in Platinum now with your advice but it would be nice to have something simpler. :) just sayin
     
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    Re: Ducking... 2015/02/18 23:53:15 (permalink)
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    Waves support seems pretty good from what I have read maybe they can give you a road map on setting up the plug-in. I do know Waves sidechain only works with the VST3 version of their plug-ins and mixing VST2 and VST3 versions of their products in the same project is a problem.
     
    When it comes to ducking, this might be more a matter of learning the process like any production technique. I don't know how much more intelligent it can be.
     
    Consider posting in the Techniques forum for info on how to use sidechain enabled plug-ins (and Waves Vocal Rider specifically) for ducking.
    post edited by scook - 2015/02/20 06:33:58
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    Re: Ducking... 2015/02/20 03:10:51 (permalink)
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    Thanks for the help :)

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    Re: Ducking... 2015/02/20 17:41:05 (permalink)
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    For really simple basic rythm-based time-synced ducking (e.g. ducking a bass in beats one and three to unmask the kick) take a look at Wave's One-Knob Ducker. A very simple plugin that works very well, and no need for side-chaining or doing anything other than turning the knob until you get the effect you want.

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    Re: Ducking... 2015/02/20 17:47:01 (permalink)
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    tlw
     Wave's One-Knob Ducker.

    Wow! I have always ignored the Big-Knobs... thanks!
     
    update:
    Well that's the one knob pumper, I have that one.... looks nice for beat ducking. its a good start! thanks!  
     
    Still need to find the side chain feature on the waves plug-ins....
    post edited by Dave000 - 2015/02/20 18:05:09

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