Automation Envelope Clips.

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February 28, 15 4:38 PM (permalink)
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Automation Envelope Clips.

The envelope clips would have functions like looping (just like groove clips), reverse, invert, drag-stretch, scale, and that funky warping thing Studio One has. It would allow quick copying of envelopes without having to use copy paste. Could also be duplicated of course, once duplicate is implemented, which I trust is at the next update. Right? There would also be integrated envelope sidechaining in each automation lane, to modulate an envelope with another (lanes inside lanes with an automatable crossfade, basically). In addition, there would be a way to select an automation range directly in the automation lane, without having to set a macro control in the effect or instrument.
 
Oh. Needless to say, this would be a great occasion to implement freely curvable automation segments.
post edited by Spencer - February 28, 15 6:23 PM
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. March 02, 15 10:42 PM (permalink)
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    It's probably been requested before, but I'll give a vote for the ability to use clips as automation containers!
     

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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. March 08, 15 4:50 PM (permalink)
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    bump
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. March 09, 15 5:43 AM (permalink)
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    oh yeah, we're also going to need a slide mode for nodes, I don't think there's one now. get to it
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. March 10, 15 10:20 AM (permalink)
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    there should also be vertical snap settings such as 1/4, 1/7 etc as well as mod maps with musical scale presets, like you see in the alchemy step sequencer.
     
     
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. March 10, 15 12:45 AM (permalink)
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    oh, one more flash of genius: the ability to create split points throughout a selected time range at any given snap resolution in order to facilitate step programming with the envelopes.
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. March 12, 15 7:18 AM (permalink)
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    bump. I'm basically sending this to the top of the list every day until something is either done or officially announced about cakewalk's intention to remedy the current prehistoric state of the automation system. it doesn't have to be everything above in one go but at least half of it would certainly be a great start.
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. March 12, 15 8:00 AM (permalink)
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    bump. I'm basically sending this to the top of the list every day until something is either done or officially announced about cakewalk's intention to remedy the current prehistoric state of the automation system.

    good luck with that :-)
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. March 19, 15 11:09 PM (permalink)
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    cheers. one day, pal. one day.
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. March 28, 15 3:04 AM (permalink)
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    a-ha! option to display numeric values alongside the automation nodes. knew I was forgetting something
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. April 20, 15 9:19 PM (permalink)
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    instead of cutting split points, maybe it could be better to just have Step Nodes, like in the Absynth envelopes
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. May 29, 15 9:49 PM (permalink)
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    Well, the traditional musicians just got their cool new drum replacer toy. Good for them. How about we're next?
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. May 30, 15 3:17 AM (permalink)
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    Well, the traditional musicians just got their cool new drum replacer toy. Good for them. How about we're next?




    We can dream. I gave the OP 5 stars.
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. June 03, 15 11:46 AM (permalink)
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    Thanks for supporting.
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. June 03, 15 8:55 PM (permalink)
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    I would love this as well.
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. June 04, 15 4:36 AM (permalink)
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    If this is what I think it is I like it. Doesn't FL studio have this? You can move the automation independently of the tracks. That's really useful, because now it's a bit difficult to copy automation data and IMO it should be easier.

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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. June 04, 15 10:06 AM (permalink)
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    Yes, exactly. My idea is basically taking the best features of the automation systems in FL, Logic, and even synths like Massive, Absynth and Alchemy (some of those may admittedly be somewhat overkill, I'm just throwing my ideas around), and rolling it all into Sonar. With a few twists, like, I don't know of any DAW that lets you select minimum and maximum value directly inside the automation lane.
     
    I have yet another suggestion: each automation lane should have a dedicated MIDI learn function, which would work completely separately from ACT. Or, in other words, which would work.
    post edited by Spencer - June 04, 15 10:16 AM
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. June 06, 15 11:11 PM (permalink)
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    It would be possible to import and export envelope clips in the browser with drag and drop.
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. June 29, 15 7:36 AM (permalink)
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    Someone at cakewalk liked the thread. Guess there's hope.
     
    They can skip the integrated sidechaining I guess - to be fair if I need this level of modulation I can just fire up massive or do it in MUX or something - but honestly pretty much everything else needs to be there
    post edited by Spencer - June 29, 15 7:43 AM
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    Re: Automation Envelope Clips. July 17, 15 9:34 PM (permalink)
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    Like, ok here's the deal with step envelopes. Yes it can be done right now, using the Jump setting between breakpoints. There lies the problem though, as it's really annoying having to manually set the segments to Jump one by one. You can't select a bunch of breakpoints and make them Jump because the jump setting is in the segment menu and not the breakpoint menu! Whoever thought that out didn't do his job properly. And even then, we'd also need horizontal snap values to make it really workable.
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