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How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
Hey there. Trying to mix a song and save as .wav and MP3. The problem is- it keeps going and mixes down 20 minutes instead of 7 minutes it supposed to. I know there is a way to set "From" and "To" by selecting, but I do not want to select anything. In fact before bouncing, I use "Select Nothing" - this way I do not have to specify which tracks I want to be in the mix- it mixes all active tracks. But I need it to stop when there no more music, and it keeps going- my files like 20 minutes long. And I need to e-mail MP3s like an hour ago... Your help will be appreciated. Thank you.
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Re: How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
2015/02/28 23:54:02
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Make sure there are no events past the seven minute make such as midi notes or automation nodes.
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Re: How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
2015/02/28 23:54:09
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The easiest thing is to select all, then drag across the timeline to select the region you want to export.
The less easy option is to find whatever is past the intended end of the song - maybe an automation node or something. Most of the time you can just select all, then drag from the end of where the song is supposed to end to past where it does in fact end, then delete. But I find the easy way...easier.
SONAR always assumes that the last event in a project represents the end of the song.
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Re: How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
2015/03/01 00:04:55
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Thank you for your replies. I don't see anything at the end of the song. It goes up to 630 measures, and the song is about 300. I solved it for now by selecting "All" and then selecting "Thru=Now", so it worked. But it would be interesting to know what it thinks I have in those measures.
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Re: How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
2015/03/01 00:40:19
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So we see that scook still types faster than I do...but I digress.
Usually as he points out, it's automation nodes or MIDI events. That's why selecting everything in that range and deleting usually solves the problem. Hidden tracks can also be an issue.
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Re: How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
2015/03/01 01:48:30
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Well- you know- if the track has data in it, it would have the dots all the way till the clip. But there are no dots. I will check for automation. Also Automation would not be affected by selecting everything and deleting...
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Re: How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
2015/03/01 03:29:21
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there is a situation where your issue will occur even though it SEEMS
like there are no midi events...
1. There is a midi note with a length parameter that you have overlooked.
this possibility can be diminished because we know that we would still
see a midi note easily when the length is too long.
So I suspect
2. A midi controller message with an errant length parameter.
worth a check.
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Re: How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
2015/03/01 10:42:40
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vladasyn
Also Automation would not be affected by selecting everything and deleting...
Actually that's not true. Automation nodes will be deleted.
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Re: How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
2015/03/01 11:47:40
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Couldn't you just look at the Events List?
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Re: How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
2015/03/02 13:38:52
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Couldn't you just look at the Events List?
That is what I usually do... easy to see an errant cc there. Mel
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Re: How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
2015/03/02 15:48:27
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The Event list will not pick up tempo changes, meter/key changes etc
Also check if there's anything in hidden tracks, and check your busses as well as tracks.
There is ALWAYS "something out there"
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Re: How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
2015/03/02 19:23:42
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There is ALWAYS "something out there"
Is that the tagline for the X-Series Files?
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Re: How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
2015/03/02 21:30:14
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Just curious...why would there be tempo changes or meter/key changes eleventy jillion or so measures out from the ostensible end of the song?
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Re: How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
2015/03/02 21:37:27
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Just curious...why would there be tempo changes or meter/key changes eleventy jillion or so measures out from the ostensible end of the song?
Unlikely it's one of those. You can move clips around and push stuff further out in timeline. Like when there's an automation node at the end of a project, you insert some measures, move some things...you can have "leftovers" from importing a wav file at its timestamp...there are plenty of possibilities.
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Re: How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
2015/03/03 01:53:12
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In my experience it's totally random whether the Project stops playback/export at project end or not. I have not been able to find any logic behind it. In SONAR 4 and 6 it was not that common, IIRC, but now in 8.5 it's more like a rule that playback goes on past the Project end. I would warmly welcome a method to mark the end of the song in a way that really stops playback/export, every time.
I find it most irritating when I audition the mixes walking around, getting coffee etc. And when I'm back at my PC the Project is somewhere at measure n:o 1258.
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Re: How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
2015/03/03 06:38:04
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Well, When I render I always select what I want to render between the start of the content stop of the content markers (key stroke= M) I drop in by selecting the tracks, holding down the mouse button dragging that over the tracks I want, (turns them grayer or darker) I try putting markers on start of the content wanted on the time line, stop markers of the content on the time line of the content first...then select by dragging that mouse over and between those markers....Does it for me...I always get just that stuff...RENDERED....Mute tracks you do not want in the rendering.
But if another thing is causing issues with this process...then I'll sand down, and let the techs who know more continue to help....what I do not understand, I will learn...form.
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Re: How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
2015/05/02 11:51:05
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In my experience it's totally random whether the Project stops playback/export at project end or not. I have not been able to find any logic behind it. In SONAR 4 and 6 it was not that common, IIRC, but now in 8.5 it's more like a rule that playback goes on past the Project end. I would warmly welcome a method to mark the end of the song in a way that really stops playback/export, every time.
I find it most irritating when I audition the mixes walking around, getting coffee etc. And when I'm back at my PC the Project is somewhere at measure n:o 1258.
Expand the Options tab in the Track Pane, and there is option for telling Sonar to Stop At Project End. Just make sure this option is checked. Bob Bone
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Re: How to make a song stop at certain meassure when bouncing? (It keeps going)
2015/05/03 06:04:20
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Kalle Rantaaho
In my experience it's totally random whether the Project stops playback/export at project end or not. I have not been able to find any logic behind it. In SONAR 4 and 6 it was not that common, IIRC, but now in 8.5 it's more like a rule that playback goes on past the Project end. I would warmly welcome a method to mark the end of the song in a way that really stops playback/export, every time.
I find it most irritating when I audition the mixes walking around, getting coffee etc. And when I'm back at my PC the Project is somewhere at measure n:o 1258.
Curious. All of my projects stop exactly where I expect them to. On those occasions when it doesn't stop as expected, I track it down and as noted above, there is always "something out there". The X-Series files. Got an idea for a song. Thanks Craig
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