The Braintree Brainfreeze

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2015/03/01 18:09:08 (permalink)

The Braintree Brainfreeze

Ive been reading various posts on the update and I still just can't seem to find any of the new content I supposably installed. I ran the scan for vst's thinking it would show new content. The Bark pro channel module is nowhere around. I read through the pdf for the re matrix stuff and had no luck finding it. I've never had a problem with any update through the years. Why is this proving to be more difficult? Is there a " Dummies guide to updates " anywhere in this forum for this update? I need it. Thx

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 18:27:54 (permalink)
    First its important to install all yellow or red items. This means when you open C3 you should see Sonar as yellow that is only the beginning. This means it and perhaps more stuff needs updating. There is a slew under it and you have click on it to see them. You need to install all of them for a full install. As they are installed they will turn green.  That is what you want for all items.  

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 18:38:51 (permalink)
    I understand that part, weeks ago when I did my upgrade from X3 I followed the guidance from other forum members as to what was necessary to install coming from Producer. That is the path I took, therefore I have a lot of red dots in the c3.

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 18:42:27 (permalink)
    I advise turning all those reds into green. This is how C3 is meant to be used. There is nothing in it that will destroy an older install of an older version.  

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 18:43:52 (permalink)
    Hey, I had exactly that experience, did what I thought was the install/update, but then couldn't see any evidence of the stuff I was supposed to be installing. 
     
    What I figured out was that the install sort of comes in two stages. First you do the Sonar update, which I guess addresses all the "under the hood" items. Then go back to Command Center and click Sonar again. It will open a drop-down where it will list all the other components to be installed, all in yellow or red. Click them one at a time and it will lead you through the process. Mine went flawlessly, once I figured that out. 

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 18:49:32 (permalink)
    ward s
    Hey, I had exactly that experience, did what I thought was the install/update, but then couldn't see any evidence of the stuff I was supposed to be installing. 
     
    What I figured out was that the install sort of comes in two stages. First you do the Sonar update, which I guess addresses all the "under the hood" items. Then go back to Command Center and click Sonar again. It will open a drop-down where it will list all the other components to be installed, all in yellow or red. Click them one at a time and it will lead you through the process. Mine went flawlessly, once I figured that out. 


    Nicely outlined. C3 could use a do over but if you follow its logic its not so bad. 

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 19:02:25 (permalink)
    It could also use better documentation beyond just the feature descriptions to include the installation process. The experiences forum members are having - both positive and negative - will help considerably in crafting that document.

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 19:32:04 (permalink)
    I'm going to attempt a users guide to installing Sonar platinum. This is for a normal default install. See below for how to install when a custom install is needed
     
    First Download Cakewalk Command Center I will refer to it as C3 hereafter. 
     
    You can get it here https://www.cakewalk.com/Command-Center
     
    Once it is installed and you have purchased Sonar run it and you should see something like this.
     
     
    Notice a couple of things here. One Sonar is listed at the top of a longer menu with a lot of red lights. These indicate not installed by C3. If they were yellow it means it has been installed by C3 but there is an update for it. Green means all is well and up to date. 
     
    Clicking on each item will either install or update it. You may also have an option to reinstall or uninstall.
    The is some customization for C3 and the option menu is located to the right top. Its a little cog wheel looking icon. It will let you set a path for VSTs and the like. It will not let you install Sonar in a non default directory or disk.  
     
    What if you need to have a custom install!
     
    You still use C3 to download the install files but before exit C3 and on a Win 8 system goto ProframData/Cakewalk/ Platinum/ Command Center/ Download.
     
    There you will see all the downloaded files that can be installed directly. Just double click on each one in order to start the install for that item. This will give you full user control on where and what is installed. 
     
    Any questions I will attempt to answer. 
     
     

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 19:52:22 (permalink)
    Essentially, for me, since I already had previous versions of Sonar, i.e. X3e and some earlier ones so I could still use Sonar R-Mix, V-Vocal, etc., I only installed the Platinum install when it was first released in January plus the other individual feature installs to complete it.  I did not want to reinstall the things like I already had like Dimension Pro, etc. 
     
    In this Braintree update, I installed the Sonar Platinum "Braintree" update, the NYC Showroom IR impulses, the Anderton stuff since it includes new content and features, and finally the Boz Bark of the Dog plugin.  This, I think, will get you up to date if you had already had full install.  I don't know if the new Help and Tutorial files are up to date or not, but I suspect not.  The downloadable pdf file would reflect the changes within the Braintree update.
     
    If  you read the pdf file, you will have to load the NYC IR impulses manually and well as refreshing the screen in Rapture for the new content.  The pdf pretty much explains everything.
    Hope this might help somebody...

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 19:55:18 (permalink)
    The SONAR Reference Guide pdf was added to the "Help and Tutorials" package.
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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 20:16:42 (permalink)
    To check the IR's in the ReMatrix Pro Channel;
    insert a Pro Chan module and select the ReMatrix
    in the window below the presets, (where the wave is..)
    look at "user" you'll see them all show up in a big flyout 
     
    I got all done or so I thought with downloading and installing and then went back to see that I missed one for Platinum or it just showed up!
    The IR's are very nice! I haven't got around to anything else, yet.

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 21:04:23 (permalink)
    I posted this before, but Cakewalk needs to provide a detailed step by step guide explaining how to correctly install Braintree. I have been trying to read through all the forum posts and it is most confusing.

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 21:27:35 (permalink)
    Mack
    I posted this before, but Cakewalk needs to provide a detailed step by step guide explaining how to correctly install Braintree. I have been trying to read through all the forum posts and it is most confusing.

    What is confusing you? I think I can help. Also please look at the guide I posted here. http://forum.cakewalk.com...e-m3183900.aspx I have more in that thread  that may help. Plus the more questions that are asked the more I can answer.  

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 21:36:20 (permalink)
    John
    I'm going to attempt a users guide to installing Sonar platinum. This is for a normal default install. See below for how to install when a custom install is needed
     
    First Download Cakewalk Command Center I will refer to it as C3 hereafter. 
     
    You can get it here https://www.cakewalk.com/Command-Center
     
    Once it is installed and you have purchased Sonar run it and you should see something like this.
     
     
    Notice a couple of things here. One Sonar is listed at the top of a longer menu with a lot of red lights. These indicate not installed by C3. If they were yellow it means it has been installed by C3 but there is an update for it. Green means all is well and up to date. 
     
    Clicking on each item will either install or update it. You may also have an option to reinstall or uninstall.
    The is some customization for C3 and the option menu is located to the right top. Its a little cog wheel looking icon. It will let you set a path for VSTs and the like. It will not let you install Sonar in a non default directory or disk.  
     
    What if you need to have a custom install!
     
    You still use C3 to download the install files but before exit C3 and on a Win 8 system goto ProframData/Cakewalk/ Platinum/ Command Center/ Download.
     
    There you will see all the downloaded files that can be installed directly. Just double click on each one in order to start the install for that item. This will give you full user control on where and what is installed. 
     
    Any questions I will attempt to answer. 
     
     




    May I add..
    I've approached the c3 install process as if I was approaching a traffic signal..
    Yellow<caution.. but it's an update to what's already installed.. 
    Red<stop and think about it (do I have Dimpro/AD2..full version/TH2 full version/Melodyne Editor already installed?.. if so, don't need to do it again)
    Green<Well.. no decision to make just go!
    Not one problem here yet.
     

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 21:38:43 (permalink)
    Mack
    I posted this before, but Cakewalk needs to provide a detailed step by step guide explaining how to correctly install Braintree. I have been trying to read through all the forum posts and it is most confusing.


    I fully agree. John, it's nice of you to provide some guidance as you have. So thank you. But the experience was confusing and without installation information. First time out on this new endeavor. Hopefully there will be more helpful install info for this and for future releases.

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 21:39:26 (permalink)
    I think one question is... is there an advantage to re-install Melodyne if you have upgraded to EDITOR, and do you re-install DimPro and Rapture?  I think that question has been answered by FORUM members with a "NO" (since there probably won't be any future upgrades, etc), but I wonder what somebody like Noel has to say (and how to deal with red lights that keep you up at night!)

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 22:01:56 (permalink)
    This is my take on it. There is no reason to install D Pro and Rapture for any improvement of their stability as such. But C3 installed it by overwriting the already installed versions. This was with the Platinum first install. Now an update was issued via C3 and it can be installed via C3. If one had not used C3 to do the overwrite on first install the update would go unnoticed and unreported by C3. 
     
    Its possible that nothing worth while is in either of those installs but because no extra disk space will be used and because the off chance is that a bug or two were fixed with the latest versions I think it makes sense to just bite the bullet and use C3 to install all Platinum software including those that seemingly will only be overwritten. 
     
    It is a decision one can only make if one is completely informed of all the ramification and possibles. I have as a rule always gone ahead and installed the versions contemporary with the newer version when doing an upgrade.
     
    Is this right for another? I'm in no position to say. I think my logic is sound and in the end one will lose nothing by installing.     

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 22:29:44 (permalink)
    I just took a walk back to the command center and rechecked my installations that are validated, the updates I installed earlier were Red......hmmmmmm, so I reinstalled them and went through the paces, the funny thing is, earlier the pdf page didn't pop up like this time. I thought the pdf everyone was talking about was the one in the cakewalk Braintree post. Well.......it's working now and it wasn't that hard after all. (As long as you have all of the right information). Thank you

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 22:49:48 (permalink)
    John

    Is this right for another? I'm in no position to say. I think my logic is sound and in the end one will lose nothing by installing.     
    . I might disagree with that (like having problems getting Melodyne editor back) and such wondered what a Cake rep thought- IOW someone in a position to say

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 23:09:46 (permalink)
    Oh I forgot about the Melodyne question. I would not install it if I had the editor version. 

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    Re: The Braintree Brainfreeze 2015/03/01 23:31:14 (permalink)
    Dim Pro and Rapture have only had their installers updated as per one is f Noel's posts. The pity is that quite a few assumed that since the CCC showed an update available it needed to be installed, waste of bandwidth and download data

    I on the other hand did a manual install as I noted that there was a version number increment which indicates an update. Sadly there was no info at that time to say it was only an installer updates r didn't need to be done.

    I'll be glad when the new monthly process is firmly established and the bugs ironed out. In a sense it's easier to deal with program bugs than system bugs.

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