Opinions on a song please

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2015/02/28 16:46:52 (permalink)

Opinions on a song please

Hi. Tonight Finland's song for the song contest Eurovision was chosen. The song is a bit simple imo and it is too short. Good in it is the punk attitude and the simplicity. I would like to hear some comments about the song and how do you think it will cope in the contest.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=1zcie_ykFqo

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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/02/28 17:00:36 (permalink)
    Link doesn't work Antti. Doesn't matter though, because the song doesn't either. Eurovision has long since ceased to be about the songs, it's all about political alliances. Sad, but true.

     
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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/02/28 17:22:15 (permalink)
    Le Royaume-Uni.......NIL POINTS!

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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/02/28 17:35:19 (permalink)
    Thank you James for the helpful information and your opinion. It seems that because I used my phone to make the link it did not work. I am not quite sure if the song does or does not matter but I think the song still matters. At least for the contestants. Here is the name for the finnish contestants: Pertti Kurikan
    Nimipäivät and the song is Aina mun pitää. If you paste those into Youtube you can hear the song. The performers are disabled and that fact may play and also might have played a part in the result of the contests. I would still like to hear some opinions about the performance.

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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/03/01 00:37:31 (permalink)
    It doesn't have a hope in hell in winning the Eurovision song contest (nowhere near bland or cheesy enough) but I like it. Great performance, production and spirit. The guys look like a good set of characters as well. The rhythm has a nice swing to it that's unusual for a punk style. 

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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/03/01 05:20:30 (permalink)
    Thank you for your comment James. I agree with what you say.

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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/03/01 08:55:47 (permalink)
    It's got a great hook, that's for sure. They might do OK, stranger things have happened in Eurovision.
     
    The performers are disabled and that fact may play and also might have played a part in the result of the contests.

     
    That's certainly possible.

     
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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/03/01 09:02:31 (permalink)
    Thank you for your comment James. They are like pioneers in the sense that they are the first disabled performers and that may give them extra points.

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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/03/01 09:10:50 (permalink)
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    It doesn't have a hope in hell in winning the Eurovision song contest

    I didn't read quite carefully enough. I slightly disagree with this. I feel they might have a chance because of their special disabled status and I think there might also be voters who like this kind of more aggressive stuff who haven't voted before. But it is a slim chance them winning I feel.

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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/03/02 12:47:36 (permalink)
    kakku
    It seems that because I used my phone to make the link it did not work. 
    Nimipäivät and the song is Aina mun pitää.



    More than likely the link you posted is not specific to any particular video, but just shows the featured video of the day (hour? minute?). When I used it I got the now famous skydiving seizure guy.
     
    Visiting this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEiM6l5meQI was one of my least favorite music experiences of the day (year? decade? lifetime?). Since I am not able to understand the lyrics (this problem is not limited to Finnish songs by the way) I had to limit my appreciation to the music and instrumental virtuosity displayed. How do you say loud, uninspired, monotonous and boring in Finnish (Swedish?)?
     
     
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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/03/02 13:04:57 (permalink)
    Thank you for your comment David. The song is a bit simple I agree. In finnish it is äänekäs, lattea or köyhä, yksitoikkoinen and tylsä. Luckily the song lasts less than 2 minutes as it is those things you said. But as the performers are disabled the song probably has to be simple I think. My opinion about the song seems to change when I read different comments.

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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/03/02 13:08:59 (permalink)
    I've never really understood how anything to do with music can be turned into a competition. It's far too subjective to be judged as 'better' or 'best', unless perhaps everyone is performing the same piece.

     
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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/03/02 13:39:01 (permalink)
    Thank you for your comment James. I think the only way to judge songs is by rating them in a subjective way. Perhaps songs cannot be rated in a way that everybody agrees to as there is no certain definite attributes that all songs should be composed of.
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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/03/02 18:34:50 (permalink)
    Here is finally a working link to the song and also the 'great' english translation to the song's lyrics made by one band member.
    http://www.rumba.fi/uutis...anninkielinen-kaannos/

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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/03/02 20:00:45 (permalink)
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    Thank you for your comment David. The song is a bit simple I agree. In finnish it is äänekäs, lattea or köyhä, yksitoikkoinen and tylsä. Luckily the song lasts less than 2 minutes as it is those things you said. But as the performers are disabled the song probably has to be simple I think. My opinion about the song seems to change when I read different comments.



    Yes, I recognized the typical trisomy 21 facies, especially evident in the drummer, and we should respect the selection committee for their generous (politically correct?) consideration. If there were a "Special" Eurovision competition, the song might be a contender. There are a great many much better idiot savant (current politically correct appellation "savant") musicians out there. Does this recognition make me an insensitive bastard or just an intellectual elitist? Well, I find very little validity in the concept that the rich among us are there because they are more clever than the poor and thus deserve the rewards of being born bright and raised well to do. And I do not dismiss the accomplishments of those of us with less luck in the  genetic lottery. Still, you asked for my opinion of the music, and it was given with trained and experienced understanding of the source. It is not good music. 
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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/03/09 05:59:50 (permalink)
    Thank you for your comment David.

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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/03/09 06:01:11 (permalink)
    Now there is a new version of this song. It is funny.
    http://www.rumba.fi/uutis...rsio-koska-miksipa-ei/

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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/05/20 03:34:34 (permalink)
    They did not even get to the finals. I think it is because the song was not good enough. I hope the next finnish contestant who wins the finnish qualifications wins because of musical merits and not because people try to be nice or tolerant. Although it is ofc important to be tolerant and nice.
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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/05/20 20:09:01 (permalink)
    So, basically, you hope the Finnish finish next time, ya?  

     
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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/05/21 07:49:48 (permalink)
    You are correct Craig. Also I would like to winners to win purely because of good music.

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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/05/26 05:08:44 (permalink)
    I think it's funny that Australia got invited to participate in the competition and an Australian artist opened it. The world is definitely getting smaller.

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    Re: Opinions on a song please 2015/05/26 05:15:50 (permalink)
    Yes. In honour of the contest's
    60th running and in recognition of
    the event's popularity in Australia,
    it was announced on 10 February
    2015 that Australia was to be
    invited to compete in the 2015
    contest as a special guest
    participant. Australians have televised the event for 30 years.

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