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[CWBRN-31612] - PRV: Ctrl-/Shift- Click-drag on events in Controller lane not working
I would have expected that if I Ctrl-Drag or Shift-Drag on a group of selected events in a controller lane, I would be able to change the events with either the values or the time position locked. Ideally: Ctrl-Click-Drag = scale the values of the selected events, without changing the time Shift-Click-Drag = move the selected events in time, without changing the values. Instead, nothing seems to happen - although the mouse pointer icon changes, suggesting that something was supposed to happen:  I have submitted this as bug CWBRN-31612.
post edited by stickman393 - 2015/02/26 14:40:36
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Re: PRV: Ctrl- or Shift- Click Drag on selected events in Controller lane does nothing
2015/02/24 04:08:04
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Re: PRV: Ctrl- or Shift- Click Drag on selected events in Controller lane does nothing
2015/02/24 11:28:50
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In X3:
Ctrl+drag copies the selected note/controller.
Shift+drag maintains note/controller time position while changing its value.
Ctrl+shift+drag scales selected controllers.
This explains my expectations. Thanks! I didn't think to compare with X3. I did search the latest online documentation last night, but I could not find the page you linked to. So, thanks for that.
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Re: PRV: Ctrl- or Shift- Click Drag on selected events in Controller lane does nothing
2015/02/25 12:44:51
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Do you consider you problem resolved Stickman393? If so would you please modify original post to say so thank you.
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Re: PRV: Ctrl- or Shift- Click Drag on selected events in Controller lane does nothing
2015/02/26 12:19:18
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Re: PRV: Ctrl- or Shift- Click Drag on selected events in Controller lane does nothing
2015/02/26 14:07:53
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OK not resolved but reported and issued a number, could you please amend your original post with the CWBRN-31612 number. This will show others that this has been reported and Cake are aware.
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Re: PRV: Ctrl- or Shift- Click Drag on selected events in Controller lane does nothing
2015/03/02 21:24:20
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Is this happening under the Braintree update?
Thanks.
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Re: PRV: Ctrl- or Shift- Click Drag on selected events in Controller lane does nothing
2015/03/03 01:39:52
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Yes it's still happening under BrainTree. I didn't expect any change there. I expect it will take a while before the bakers decide how they want this feature to work.
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Re: PRV: Ctrl- or Shift- Click Drag on selected events in Controller lane does nothing
2015/03/03 07:25:25
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So I was wrong. Sorry about that. Whenever you hold ctrl and drag it duplicates notes/controllers.
In X3:
Ctrl+drag duplicates selected notes/controllers.
Shift+drag scales note/controller value while maintaining time position.
Ctrl+shift+drag duplicates notes/controllers and scales their value simultaneously while maintaining time position.
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Re: PRV: Ctrl- or Shift- Click Drag on selected events in Controller lane does nothing
2015/03/03 07:28:51
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I'm curious, since Velocity handles are different than the rest of the controllers, do they behave the same way when you try to scale them?
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Re: PRV: Ctrl- or Shift- Click Drag on selected events in Controller lane does nothing
2015/03/03 11:29:15
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Velocity handles do not behave the same way. I mean, velocity editing has been revamped in SONAR 25 and the action of the Shift and Ctrl modifier keys is quite different from previous versions.
Therefore, I don't like comparing the edit behavior of other controller types in SONAR 25 to previous versions, because I expect the behavior to be revamped also, and to be more comparable to how modifier keys work for Velocity, when finally implemented fully.
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Re: PRV: Ctrl- or Shift- Click Drag on selected events in Controller lane does nothing
2015/03/04 11:09:35
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Velocity handles do not behave the same way. I mean, velocity editing has been revamped in SONAR 25 and the action of the Shift and Ctrl modifier keys is quite different from previous versions.
Therefore, I don't like comparing the edit behavior of other controller types in SONAR 25 to previous versions, because I expect the behavior to be revamped also, and to be more comparable to how modifier keys work for Velocity, when finally implemented fully.
+1. I like the way velocity bars are handled in SPlat, and I like the new controller graphics. There just needs to be a more consistent behavior when using modifier keys. I have confidence (more than ever) that it will get addressed at some point, probably sooner rather than later given how things are already moving along.
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Re: PRV: Ctrl- or Shift- Click Drag on selected events in Controller lane does nothing
2015/03/05 19:30:35
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I've noticed in X3e that Velocity Controllers don't even show up when opening a PRV window for the 1st time. The pane is completely blank until opening a 2nd PRV window.
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CTRL / Shift with Smart Tool on CCs
2015/03/10 04:45:24
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When using the Smart tool to copy or move controllers in the controller pane, pressing the control or shift key will switch the cursor into the velocity scaling/stretching mode. As I understand it, this mode is for velocities only, it's not doing anything on controllers. Hence, control/shift should work as before on controllers with the Smart tool. (Copy/move still works with the Move tool.)
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Re: CTRL / Shift with Smart Tool on CCs
2015/03/10 05:36:53
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Sorry, I missed this was already reported here [CWBRN-31612].
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Re: CTRL / Shift with Smart Tool on CCs
2015/03/10 22:54:50
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Can a host please lock this thread as dupe or merge it.
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