davidt64
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 42
- Joined: 2014/11/24 19:38:05
- Status: offline
dbx 166xl or Plug-in
What is best hardware comp. I have the dbx 166xl or Plug-in when recording bass
|
stxx
Max Output Level: -82 dBFS
- Total Posts : 406
- Joined: 2010/01/31 17:32:02
- Status: offline
Re: dbx 166xl or Plug-in
2015/03/05 12:36:01
(permalink)
Many people including me prefer a Fairchild 660 - 670 emulation. UAD and Waves both have them. I would use the plugins over the 166 HW. Maybe the bass player could use it during tracking to smooth his signal a little but would not patch it in. Prochannel plugs work fine too
Sonar Platinum, RME UFX, UAD 2, Waves, Soundtoys, Fronteir Alphatrack, X-Touch as Contl Srfc, , Console 1, Sweetwater Creation Station Quad Core Win 8.1, Mackie 824, KRK RP5, AKG 240 MKII, Samson C-Control, Sennheiser, Blue, AKG, RODE, UA, Grace, Focusrite, Audient, Midas, ART Song Portfolio: https://soundcloud.com/allen-lind/sets/oth-short
|
davidt64
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 42
- Joined: 2014/11/24 19:38:05
- Status: offline
Re: dbx 166xl or Plug-in
2015/03/05 13:25:28
(permalink)
wave has a new 160dbx plug. what is that best used for.
|
emwhy
Max Output Level: -62 dBFS
- Total Posts : 1402
- Joined: 2006/01/03 15:09:02
- Status: offline
Re: dbx 166xl or Plug-in
2015/03/05 13:30:40
(permalink)
I own a dbx 266xl, it works well on bass, so as long as your signal chain is ok you should be fine. But it's not the most transparent comp out there. I'm lucky to also have an 1176 from Warm Audio that really works well on bass.
|
John
Forum Host
- Total Posts : 30467
- Joined: 2003/11/06 11:53:17
- Status: offline
Re: dbx 166xl or Plug-in
2015/03/05 13:54:08
(permalink)
Well there is a problem. A plugin is only good after the audio has been recorded. If you want the audio compressed before it gets to the DAW you need hardware. The dbx is a fine compressor. I have a 266 xl. For mixing a plugin is the only way to fly. Though you can still use hardware with Sonar's external insert.
Sonar comes with some very good and useful compressors.
|
davidt64
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
- Total Posts : 42
- Joined: 2014/11/24 19:38:05
- Status: offline
Re: dbx 166xl or Plug-in
2015/03/05 15:31:52
(permalink)
|
mixmkr
Max Output Level: -43.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3169
- Joined: 2007/03/05 22:23:43
- Status: offline
Re: dbx 166xl or Plug-in
2015/03/05 17:28:53
(permalink)
John
Well there is a problem. A plugin is only good after the audio has been recorded. If you want the audio compressed before it gets to the DAW you need hardware.
Actually you can patch around and accomplish.... noting the VSTi thread, which desires to be able to record a VSTi LIVE. Using a plugin would be basically the same principle. But, another reason why it would be nice to have track routing internally in Sonar so you could do such a thing. Obviously not using CPU hungry plugs to kill you on latency, but many plugs would certainly be usable for this. As a guitar player, using some of the FX plugs would be great to use live, NOT having to apply them after the track is recorded. However at 24 bit, the need for compression going in, is greatly reduced and I'd just add that type of processing after the fact.
|
John
Forum Host
- Total Posts : 30467
- Joined: 2003/11/06 11:53:17
- Status: offline
Re: dbx 166xl or Plug-in
2015/03/05 17:34:14
(permalink)
I'm assuming the source is outside of Sonar i.e. a miced instrument, Mixmkr.
|
mixmkr
Max Output Level: -43.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 3169
- Joined: 2007/03/05 22:23:43
- Status: offline
Re: dbx 166xl or Plug-in
2015/03/05 17:55:14
(permalink)
John
I'm assuming the source is outside of Sonar i.e. a miced instrument, Mixmkr.
I understand. I'd love to use the BlueTube FX on my guitar setup... mic it too...and record back in Sonar at the same time. Just "beating a dead horse" for the usefulness of internal routing within Sonar, to be able to do such a thing. Appreciate your patience ;-D
|
John
Forum Host
- Total Posts : 30467
- Joined: 2003/11/06 11:53:17
- Status: offline
Re: dbx 166xl or Plug-in
2015/03/05 17:59:29
(permalink)
I appreciate an intelligent conversation with a good member. Believe me!
|
Rain
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
- Total Posts : 9736
- Joined: 2003/11/07 05:10:12
- Location: Las Vegas
- Status: offline
Re: dbx 166xl or Plug-in
2015/03/05 19:52:35
(permalink)
mixmkr
Actually you can patch around and accomplish.... noting the VSTi thread, which desires to be able to record a VSTi LIVE. Using a plugin would be basically the same principle. But, another reason why it would be nice to have track routing internally in Sonar so you could do such a thing. Obviously not using CPU hungry plugs to kill you on latency, but many plugs would certainly be usable for this. As a guitar player, using some of the FX plugs would be great to use live, NOT having to apply them after the track is recorded. However at 24 bit, the need for compression going in, is greatly reduced and I'd just add that type of processing after the fact.
Other DAWs let you do that, using input channel, which is the shortest path, IMHO. As a guitar player, I appreciate being able to record a bunch of wet tracks through one single amp sim instance. The good folks at Cakewalk will eventually implement such a thing, I'm sure. I have a couple of 266XS, but I don't really find them all that useful. The 166 I haven't worked with but I hear it's a bit better.
TCB - Tea, Cats, Books...
|
Keni
Max Output Level: -17.5 dBFS
- Total Posts : 5769
- Joined: 2003/11/04 10:42:15
- Location: Willits, CA USA
- Status: offline
Re: dbx 166xl or Plug-in
2015/03/05 22:17:48
(permalink)
I have now and in the padt owned various versions of the dbx 160 line... It is an excellent compressor, but can easily be a real pumping machine and not always what is desired...
That said, i gave had much wonderful success using them for vocals, bass, guitar, etc... Not always my goto, but a very useful tool and fir me better to use during recording than not compressing at that time...
There are some digital exceptions... When i was running my Soundscape interface, it had the ability to run any of my vst plugins euther prior to recording, or monitor only...
I now enjoy the same kind of ability using any Presonus VSL devices though here it is limited to their own compressor... Which is actually quite good
I enjoy the fairchild series, but typically goto either an 1176LN or an LA2a... Currently using the Cakewalk versions very happily...
Keni
|