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Things you learn watching CSI...
We first watched NY, then Miami and we've started Vegas last week. 1 - They fooled me once. Granted, I spent only 2 summers in NY but I never even took a moment to ask myself where CSI NY was shot. Mostly shot in L.A. it seems. 2 - They fooled me twice. Miami is not Miami either, for the most part. But then again, I've never been to Miami. Funnily enough, CSI Miami features lots of actors who've appeared on Dexter, which also takes place in Miami, which registers on a subliminal level. 3 - But I won't get fooled again... (see what I did there?) I may not get out much, but it's clear that the biggest part of the Vegas show is shot in California. 4 - Saturation can define location. I'd never noticed how grey and blue CSI NY was until I started watching CSI Miami. I then noticed that everything orange and green was ridiculously saturated. The one episode that serves as a pilot to CSI NY has the contrast between NY and Miami equally ridicule. New York almost looks like something out of a Tim Burton movie... 5 - Sometime around 2004, ambient/background music was discarded in favour of ultramaximized beats/glitch/loops, which have nothing to do with music or what's onscreen 99% of the time... 6 - In the world of sound for picture, there is a before and an after The Dark Knight. 7 - If there had been TV shows like CSI on TV when I grew up, my life could have turned out differently. But we had CHIPs and Columbo... 8 - Sometime during the last decade, it became mandatory for actresses older than 18 to inject so much crap in their face that the Joker's victims in Tim Burton's Batman almost look natural by comparison... (And that's a shame, really).  9 - I still don't like the Who. Maybe 10 years from now...
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
2015/03/05 19:51:18
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
2015/03/05 23:16:04
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...like an excessive amount of nutmeg can produce hallucinogenic effects.
No wonder we never have nutmeg in my store.
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
2015/03/05 23:21:33
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Ah... That explains why my local store is always out as well!
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/03/06 03:23:30
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4 - Saturation can define location. I'd never noticed how grey and blue CSI NY was until I started watching CSI Miami. I then noticed that everything orange and green was ridiculously saturated. The one episode that serves as a pilot to CSI NY has the contrast between NY and Miami equally ridicule. New York almost looks like something out of a Tim Burton movie... "
My friends son does a lot of editing on Network TV and HBO stuff. I noticed the effect that Rain mentions, above, and got an explanation of sorts. I didn't realise that the people producing the shows can have custom colour pallets. So they can spool the whole show through the computer and set a mood with colour. What was really cool, was the fact that they do it with film too. They shoot film and scan it through the computer to make a digital copy, then after they do the colour corrections, they print it back to fresh film for the finished master.
Maybe old news to you, but this codger was gob-smacked.
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
2015/03/06 03:44:48
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Watched The Butterfly Effect with the Directors talking over it. They used Saturation to represent the memories, the good memories were over saturated, but the bad nightmarish ones desaturated.
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
2015/03/06 06:52:20
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We first watched NY, then Miami and we've started Vegas last week.
1 - They fooled me once. Granted, I spent only 2 summers in NY but I never even took a moment to ask myself where CSI NY was shot. Mostly shot in L.A. it seems.
2 - They fooled me twice. Miami is not Miami either, for the most part. But then again, I've never been to Miami. Funnily enough, CSI Miami features lots of actors who've appeared on Dexter, which also takes place in Miami, which registers on a subliminal level.
3 - But I won't get fooled again... (see what I did there?) I may not get out much, but it's clear that the biggest part of the Vegas show is shot in California.
4 - Saturation can define location. I'd never noticed how grey and blue CSI NY was until I started watching CSI Miami. I then noticed that everything orange and green was ridiculously saturated. The one episode that serves as a pilot to CSI NY has the contrast between NY and Miami equally ridicule. New York almost looks like something out of a Tim Burton movie...
5 - Sometime around 2004, ambient/background music was discarded in favour of ultramaximized beats/glitch/loops, which have nothing to do with music or what's onscreen 99% of the time...
6 - In the world of sound for picture, there is a before and an after The Dark Knight.
7 - If there had been TV shows like CSI on TV when I grew up, my life could have turned out differently. But we had CHIPs and Columbo...
8 - Sometime during the last decade, it became mandatory for actresses older than 18 to inject so much crap in their face that the Joker's victims in Tim Burton's Batman almost look natural by comparison... (And that's a shame, really).
9 - I still don't like the Who. Maybe 10 years from now...
In summary then, you learnt that TV isn't real. Well done. Good for you.  Ps. has anybody broken the news about santa yet? 
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
2015/03/06 11:31:27
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Not into streaming content Paulo? 
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
2015/03/06 13:18:08
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In summary then, you learnt that TV isn't real. Well done. Good for you.
That's because for the last 15 years, South Park was practically the only thing I watched, and almost everything on that show - especially the most outrageously stupid stuff - eventually came true... ;) Except maybe the biggest crap award - so far.
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
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Not into streaming content Paulo?
Apparently if one has to explain one's joke, it isn't funny............... Taxi for Paulo........ 
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
2015/03/06 15:56:31
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i've never watched csi.
I have.
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
2015/03/06 16:38:47
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Rain
That's because for the last 15 years, South Park was practically the only thing I watched
For years I've kind of admired your refusal to waste your life watching crap on TV. By admitting that you have totally spoiled it.
Either Mozart or KISS, either reading Nietzsche or watching South Park - I always shoot for extremes and find balance keeping a 3 to 1 ratio. ;)
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
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i've never watched csi.
I have.
WHAT DID I MISS?
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
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i've never watched csi.
I have.
WHAT DID I MISS?
They caught the bad guy.
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
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WHAT DID I MISS?
In CSI Miami just a bunch of over acting and general shots of half naked women on the beach. Hmmm - After visiting Miami I'd say that's a pretty fair representation
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
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WHAT DID I MISS?
In CSI Miami just a bunch of over acting and general shots of half naked women on the beach. Hmmm - After visiting Miami I'd say that's a pretty fair representation
Of all 3 shows, Miami seems by far the least realistic, and gets worst in later seasons - not only do they do everything (first respondents, basic police work, firemen work, crime scene investigation per se, processing of evidence regardless of the skills required, detective work, interrogation of suspects, etc) but the main character takes a turn for the worst by the end of the series and does things which would at the very least cost him his badge almost every episode. He also seems to have unlimited funds when it comes to helping out rescues and people who made bad choices in their life... Not to mention that they investigate and solve every crime in one work day. I think the ratings were dropping and they threw everything in. Vegas is better. The guy in charge is a nerd, not an action hero, and very procedure oriented. I'm afraid things will change in later seasons, though.
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
2015/03/06 17:39:23
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i've never watched csi.
I have.
WHAT DID I MISS?
They caught the bad guy.
there is always another bad guy.
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
2015/03/06 18:44:17
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It's funny how TV is now full of shows that really amount to nothing more than a glorified Pac Man game...
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
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It's funny how TV is now full of shows that really amount to nothing more than a glorified Pac Man game...
That's what TV is for. The problem is that most people binge on TV and forget books and music and arts and sport and all the rest. TV is like desert.
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
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Yes, but how many times can you reinvent Pac Man? So many shows share the same plot, story line, and even the same lines and commercials . They're 100% predictable. btw, Pac Man was probably the most famous and revenue producing video game of it's time... which apparently hasn't ended yet! 
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
2015/03/07 08:25:16
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i've never watched csi.
I have.
WHAT DID I MISS?
They can get pretty formulaic, but the two-part Vegas one directed by Tarantino is pretty good. Stokes gets buried alive in a perspex coffin, and Grissom has to figure out where he is before he dies. Entymology...
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
2015/03/07 16:56:15
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If you've watched Forensic Files before, there's not much left to surprise you in CSI. They base their stories on existing cases and the science that allowed to solve those particular cases most of the time.
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
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Of course with a little bit of free license here and there. I'm always AMAZED when they want to "zoom" in on a tiny spot of a blurry photo and "clean" it up to reveal high rez detail... like for a license plate or a face. Pure sci-fi. You can't get something from nothing. Also amazing is how fast DNA results come back. In real life it can take months. Then there's Judge Judy!
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Re: Things you learn watching CSI...
2015/03/07 17:59:50
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You know, in January I received yet another subpoena as a witness for that burglary case dating from May 2013. They caught those guys on the spot, and yet, almost 2 years, it goes on and on and on.
So it does indeed fascinate me to see a violent crime investigated and solved, the suspect apprehended, with all the evidence processed and laid out, and the preliminary hearing done all w/in one work shift. :P
Wouldn't it be nice...
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