DavidA23
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Sound Fonts
Can Sonar Artist utilize sound fonts?
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Re: Sound Fonts
2015/03/08 14:44:26
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Not a function of the host (Sonar), but it (Sonar) should have installed with a font player VST (e.g., sfz). If not, cakewalk used to have it as a free download.
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DavidA23
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Re: Sound Fonts
2015/03/08 21:25:16
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soens
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Re: Sound Fonts
2015/03/09 09:01:45
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Pre X series Sonar had a soundfont manager used in conjunction with some sound cards that could load them. The X series dropped that ability.
You can convert sf2 to sfz format using a converter so they will work in most soft synths, though I'm not 100% happy with the results. Maybe 90%.
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Re: Sound Fonts
2015/03/09 10:15:29
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Yes - Sonar still comes with "rgc:audio sfz" player - it's even 64bit. In the middle of last year some weblinks 'broke' on the Cakewalk site but even "rgc:audio: sfz+" should still be available somewhere ... However, I suggest just getting the free, and very good, Plogue Sforzando.It can also convert and play sf2, as well as sfz. The associated Free Sounds for ARIA Engine are also well worth the price ;). Zampler is another free alternative. These are, as expected, fully intergrateable, with Sonar as VST instruments.
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MadMusicologist
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Re: Sound Fonts
2015/03/09 17:05:53
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The Plogue Sforzando looks nice but "bites" if you have other applications using Aria Player, e.g. Garritan Personal Orchestra.
Is there any fresh release of the rgc SFZ+, or is the version dating from 2006 still the most actual one?
I shall have a look at Zampler anyway, but the SFZ+ weas so good until a few weeks ago...
Ok, Zampler is only available in 32 bit, not 64 bit. All my host engines run 64 bit:-(
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ShellstaX
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Re: Sound Fonts
2015/03/09 17:17:04
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Re: Sound Fonts
2015/03/09 19:17:19
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When I use soundfonts I use a free sampler called "tx16wx" (found at http://www.tx16wx.com/). Comes in 32 and 64 bit versions. Does a lot more than just play sooundfonts. Might be worth a look.
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MadMusicologist
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Re: Sound Fonts
2015/03/09 23:38:17
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ShellstaX
Zampler is 64bit now also. I thought the PluginBoutique interface version was too but perhaps it's just the Beats interface version. Same Synapse core. (EDIT: Ahh, see my post in the link).
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Beat-Zampler-now-64bit-and-still-FREE-m3150946.aspx
What's the conflict with Sforzando and Aria Player Apps?
Thanks, I shall check. I had Garritan Pers. Orch 4 installed, which comes with Aria Player. After installing sforzando, I run Cakewalk, and a message popped up "aria must be installed again, important elements missing." So I re installed GPO's Aria again, and tried then to run sforzando. Upon loading my .sf2 file to sforando, I failed and got the message "nothing registered to load this format." So there are 2 different configurations, and when I have one valid, the other one does not work properly. Or: Both versions are not complete versions. So I shall try Zampler 64 bit, and also "tx16wx" - thanks, MandolinPicker - and see how things turn out.
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soens
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Re: Sound Fonts
2015/03/10 08:58:08
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I tried Sforzando but the results converting sf2 to sfz were less than good compared to SFZed, which did great on most sounds. But the more complex the sound the less accurate it will be converted in my experience. http://audio.clockbeat.com/sfZed.html
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MadMusicologist
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Re: Sound Fonts
2015/03/10 13:33:55
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Actually, in first place I am looking for a samplePLAYER, not an entire sampling software:
I am currently using first a conventional wave editor to trim the samples, then I import them in Creative's Vienna SoundFont Studio where I can arrange looping (if applicable), and organizing the root samples for transposition - usually not exceeding the range of a major third. The results are reasonable - but the use of the soundfont player has stuck. Of course, in Cakewalk Sonar X3 Studio, I can make use of the sound card's "SoundFont Device". But if I get to other music software (e.g. Sibelius), that trick won't work. In the past, Sibelius worked well with the SFZ+, they (AVID) even had recommended it as a good software. This is the story behind.
On the other hand, If I find by this discussion another good sampling software which allows me to create sample banks in a format better than .sf2, I will eagerly skip the old process. Please, keep me up to date.
Thankx.
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