Can you completely remove PC from Professional and Platinum?

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Re: Can you completely remove PC from Professional and Platinum? 2015/03/19 05:48:41 (permalink)
Well, I understand your feeling, but as someone who reported 40+ bugs after the release of X3, I must say that the severity of this issue isn't very high (and it was brought up by only 1 user - me). Cakewalk has fixed a number of issues that affected more people, which I appreciate very much.
At any rate, I think this thread has caught their attention and they'll probably fix the issue soon.

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Re: Can you completely remove PC from Professional and Platinum? 2015/03/19 06:22:11 (permalink)
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I don't really mind it much, it's just something to ignore. In this age of customization it seems odd I can't simply disable it.

I'll look into the hide modules thing though, thanks to whoever suggested that.

I wish you and the others would have another look at it. It is a truly great addition to Sonar. It also must be said the modules are of very high quality. Often when something is given to us we tend to look at it as if it has little worth. After all its free, right? In reality in this case one would be hard pressed to find better modules as third party VSTs than the ones shipping with Sonar Platinum. Plus with the extra ones offered by CW and third party developers at extra cost one can make a channel strip for nearly any purpose with the high quality we demand from our plugins.    
 
Take a second look. Read up on them. One will realize that ignoring them is both silly and foolish. Overlooking them as a real benefit to your music production is shortchanging oneself.   

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Re: Can you completely remove PC from Professional and Platinum? 2015/03/19 08:21:37 (permalink)
lfm 
Odd that nobody reported for now 18 months when X3 arrived.


 
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Reported to CW in Dec 2013:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/EQ-toggle-button-wouldnt-disappear-from-Console-View-CWBRN21976-confirmed-by-CW-m2966760.aspx
 


Are you saying that the thread quoted points to an issue that is validated in Platinum?
If so a host should be able to move it to the problem reports forum (esp if somebody comments on it and asks for it to happen). Thanks.

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Re: Can you completely remove PC from Professional and Platinum? 2015/03/19 09:00:08 (permalink)
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lfm 
Odd that nobody reported for now 18 months when X3 arrived.


 
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Reported to CW in Dec 2013:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/EQ-toggle-button-wouldnt-disappear-from-Console-View-CWBRN21976-confirmed-by-CW-m2966760.aspx
 


Are you saying that the thread quoted points to an issue that is validated in Platinum?
If so a host should be able to move it to the problem reports forum (esp if somebody comments on it and asks for it to happen). Thanks.

 
Not in Platinum. It was only confirmed in X3 base version, and now in 2015 Artist. So, yes, the thread should be moved.

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Re: Can you completely remove PC from Professional and Platinum? 2015/03/19 09:11:34 (permalink)
If this is not about the Pro Channel it is Off Topic and shouldn't be in this thread.
 
The above is in the wrong thread, sorry. Please disregard it. 
post edited by John - 2015/03/19 14:36:55

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Re: Can you completely remove PC from Professional and Platinum? 2015/03/19 11:30:55 (permalink)
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Sanderxpander
I don't really mind it much, it's just something to ignore. In this age of customization it seems odd I can't simply disable it.

I'll look into the hide modules thing though, thanks to whoever suggested that.

I wish you and the others would have another look at it. It is a truly great addition to Sonar. It also must be said the modules are of very high quality. Often when something is given to us we tend to look at it as if it has little worth. After all its free, right? In reality in this case one would be hard pressed to find better modules as third party VSTs than the ones shipping with Sonar Platinum. Plus with the extra ones offered by CW and third party developers at extra cost one can make a channel strip for nearly any purpose with the high quality we demand from our plugins.    
 
Take a second look. Read up on them. One will realize that ignoring them is both silly and foolish. Overlooking them as a real benefit to your music production is shortchanging oneself.   

I really am aware of what they are, how they work and what they can do. I like some modules and don't care for others. I can't do away with the fx bin completely because it lets me switch on and off plugs in track view on multiple tracks, I use that a lot. I don't like having to go to the inspector for everything and frankly, the fact that there is no volume fader in the PC view is a miss for me. I don't want to keep some plugs in the bin and some in the PC because that just creates confusion. I spent a lot of time figuring out what was where when I did use it.

I use the CA2A in virtually every project. I like and have used the Concrete Limiter and QuadCurve EQ (great job on that one!) but I prefer my FF ProQ2 and Pro-L, and some Waves stuff. I don't care much for the PC76 and while the gate isn't bad I don't see it as an improvement over Pro-G or even Sonitus. There are no per-module presets, there is no A/B function for settings and some modules are crippled. The module selection screen is a mess because it gets huge if you have a few extra modules (VKFX alone adds like ten). I much prefer the VST3 auto sorting Waves and FF do, or my own VST2 sorting.

In other words, there are a bunch of reasons why I'd rather not use it. That said, it isn't really "in my way" in any workflow-stopping sense. I'd just rather there were an option to put it away completely so that I don't have to think about it or rotate it out of the inspector.
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Re: Can you completely remove PC from Professional and Platinum? 2015/03/19 11:53:33 (permalink)
Agreed with much of what the last poster said. If Cakewalk were to integrate the Pro Channel into the Track View, eg. by allowing PC modules in the FX bin, I'd use them. Until then, no.

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Re: Can you completely remove PC from Professional and Platinum? 2015/03/21 09:56:27 (permalink)
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Agreed with much of what the last poster said. If Cakewalk were to integrate the Pro Channel into the Track View, eg. by allowing PC modules in the FX bin, I'd use them. Until then, no.
I've gone the same direction. Basically, I'm going to avoid any plugin that is program specific and locked into a particular DAW host. Reason being is that I've had to change to another program in the past in order to complete a project when I ran into issues or needed a particular tool set. Having to recreate ProChannel plugs takes extra time when I might be able to save settings as a preset on third party plugins and use them in another host. This is a personal choice so I know opinions will vary.

I greatly appreciate the new expanding, stackable FX bin in the Console View and I've hidden the ProChannel module to give me more room for regular third party plugins in my default template. IMHO, this is the best for both worlds - folks who are just getting started or not wanting to spend extra money on plugs as well as those of us who have invested quite a bit in DSP processing hardware and extra tools.

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Re: Can you completely remove PC from Professional and Platinum? 2015/03/21 13:49:15 (permalink)
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A bit OT because I'm on X3 but I was recently wondering if removing them completely was possible too.

Sometimes I'll open a project that didn't have any PC's used at all then when I open the project later several PC's will be enabled, sometimes the white eq line on the graph indicating the eq is enabled too.

It doesn't always happen every time either & not on every project.
I'd sure like to know why this happens. It bothers me when I see them enabled at random when they were never touched. If anyone knows please let me know.



Maybe projects from older versions that had the Sonitus EQs in the mixer? Also, did you update to X3e? Your sig seems to imply you're using X3b.

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Re: Can you completely remove PC from Professional and Platinum? 2015/03/21 17:22:18 (permalink)
Dave Modisette
I'm going to avoid any plugin that is program specific and locked into a particular DAW host.



Initially I avoided the PC because of all the difficulty with saving presets for various modules. Did not seem finished.
 
Now I am with Dave. In general, proprietariness reduces user flexibility. If Sonar was perfect, and therefore I knew I would not have to use other tools, I would be all over the PC.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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