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2015/03/17 01:16:43 (permalink)

MMultibandChorus

I just bought this on a whim because it's in this week's Melda sale. Hmm, should this be in deals? Well not really, I just thought I'd relate what freakin' fun I've been having with this marvelous plugin tonight. It's worth buying whether it's on sale or not. This is definitely the infinitely tweakable chorus I've been looking for....wow! A tweaker's paradise. 

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Re: MMultibandChorus 2015/03/17 01:21:30 (permalink)
Yeah, the Melda modulation section including in most of the the plug-ins is extensive. The Deal post is here http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3192022
 
 
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Re: MMultibandChorus 2015/03/17 04:48:47 (permalink)
That chorus is brilliant. Another one I picked up on impulse was the multi band tremolo. That is capable of some very unusual effects when you have different rates, depths and shapes on different bands of a harmonically rich sound.

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Re: MMultibandChorus 2015/03/17 13:11:00 (permalink)
Collect 'em all! With the chorus, tremolo and autopan plugins you can turn any track into an unrecognizable blur of moving sound. Might as well throw in the comb filter, phaser and vibrato plugs, too. Maybe he should put all 6 of them into a Mangler Bundle.
 
I totally agree with sharke's assessment. It's a very nice chorus indeed, well worth 25 bucks. What I like about it is that by restricting the effect to a narrow band it's possible to add it to tracks that would normally not do well with a chorus effect, such as a 12-string guitar. I'm also fond of the Leslie preset synced to the project tempo to add a subtle rhythm enhancement.


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Re: MMultibandChorus 2015/03/17 14:30:18 (permalink)
I have been good as far as not giving in to the urge to buy plugins (partially due to being broke), but so many melda plugins intruige me.
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Re: MMultibandChorus 2015/03/17 16:11:11 (permalink)
To be honest the only thing that puts me off is the strange interfaces (although they're looking a lot better since the recent updates, and that you can customize them is nice) and the manuals, which are rarely an easy read. The first one I bought was MRhythmizer, 2 years ago, and I still can't make head nor tail of it despite repeated readings of the manual. Every now and then I vow to load it up and get to grips with the thing, but I give up shortly after. Thankfully this chorus looks a lot easier to learn. I may pick up some more in the sales, MAutoAlign next probably, since I just bought a matched pair of small diaphragm condensers to do stereo guitar recordings.

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Re: MMultibandChorus 2015/03/17 16:23:50 (permalink)
Sharke, I almost pulled the trigger on Mrhythmizer but saw your comments on it in another thread. I find most of these type of plugins either sound too formulaic and/or unintuitive. 
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Re: MMultibandChorus 2015/03/17 17:12:39 (permalink)
dubdisciple
Sharke, I almost pulled the trigger on Mrhythmizer but saw your comments on it in another thread. I find most of these type of plugins either sound too formulaic and/or unintuitive. 


As far as Melda goes, and I have a number of their plugins, the MMultibandChorus is one of my faves. It's easy to use, understand, and sounds great. I use it a lot.

Struggling to comprehend the power and interface of other Melda plugs, although I know they are great. The chorus is well worth it and not so daunting.

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Re: MMultibandChorus 2015/03/17 17:30:51 (permalink)
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Sharke, I almost pulled the trigger on Mrhythmizer but saw your comments on it in another thread. I find most of these type of plugins either sound too formulaic and/or unintuitive. 


It basically allows you to program glitches and rhythmic filter sweeps etc - nothing new, but interface leaves a lot to be desired, is counter intuitive and frequently leaves me asking questions that aren't answered in the manual. The same could be said of Rayzoon's Jamstix, although I have managed to piece together an understanding of that. I think part of the problem is that Melda uses a non-standard GUI kit that has that "Java look" about it, which means the widgets aren't what you're used to. And on top of that, you're either good at writing manuals or you aren't, and I don't think the guys at Melda are particularly talented in that area. Compare the manuals that come with Melda products with something like the superb Geist manual for instance - it's like night and day.

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Re: MMultibandChorus 2015/03/17 17:51:41 (permalink)
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I think part of the problem is that Melda uses a non-standard GUI kit that has that "Java look" about it, which means the widgets aren't what you're used to. And on top of that, you're either good at writing manuals or you aren't, and I don't think the guys at Melda are particularly talented in that area. Compare the manuals that come with Melda products with something like the superb Geist manual for instance - it's like night and day.



Vojtech said he's currently working on a *major* update to the classes shared by all his software.  Hopefully that will include improvements to the GUI as well.  However, the typical inscrutability is also attributable to the depth.  There are usually so many friggin' controls and parameters in a Melda plug-in that it's intimidating.
 
I agree about the documentation.  We can only hope he prospers to the extent that he can afford to hire a professional tech writer.  At least there are some very helpful video tutorials available.  If you have not checked those out, you really should make it a point to do so.  They make things a whole lot more comprehensible than the documentation does.
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Re: MMultibandChorus 2015/03/17 18:40:00 (permalink)
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I think part of the problem is that Melda uses a non-standard GUI kit that has that "Java look" about it, which means the widgets aren't what you're used to. And on top of that, you're either good at writing manuals or you aren't, and I don't think the guys at Melda are particularly talented in that area. Compare the manuals that come with Melda products with something like the superb Geist manual for instance - it's like night and day.



Vojtech said he's currently working on a *major* update to the classes shared by all his software.  Hopefully that will include improvements to the GUI as well.  However, the typical inscrutability is also attributable to the depth.  There are usually so many friggin' controls and parameters in a Melda plug-in that it's intimidating.
 
I agree about the documentation.  We can only hope he prospers to the extent that he can afford to hire a professional tech writer.  At least there are some very helpful video tutorials available.  If you have not checked those out, you really should make it a point to do so.  They make things a whole lot more comprehensible than the documentation does.



That sounds promising. I look forward to any updates. I definitely think that technical software requires a non-technical person to write it. Technical geniuses aren't noted for their ability to explain stuff to the layman, primarily because they can't seem to help making assumptions about what the layman already knows. What seems completely and utterly obvious to them is gobbledygook to the average person. I saw this when learning C and asking questions on forums. 

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Re: MMultibandChorus 2015/03/17 19:08:21 (permalink)
I rarely  uses choruses because they tend to muck up my mix. I think i will play with the demo before this deal expires. 
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Re: MMultibandChorus 2015/03/18 20:28:23 (permalink)
I've got a bunch of chorus plugins, but most are only used infrequently. Including this one, good as it is.
 
The two exceptions are ValhallaDSP's UberMod and the ancient but still stellar Kjaerhus Classic Chorus. Both get called into duty on a regular basis. 
 


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Re: MMultibandChorus 2015/03/19 16:53:55 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dubdisciple 2015/03/20 00:24:36
A few months ago, I think I finally figured out what to use chorus on for great benefit.  I was reverse engineering a preset on Lush-101.  It sounded great and I wanted to figure out why.  The usual way to reverse engineer is to selectively start turning things off, usually starting with effects.  I turned off the chorus and the sound became thin and dull.  So, the moral of the story seems to be: don't use chorus on something that already sounds good because it can muddy things up.  But it can sometimes be used to make a thin, anemic timbre full and deep.
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Re: MMultibandChorus 2015/03/19 23:09:55 (permalink)
My main problem with chorus is mono-compatibility, not so much with making frequencies disappear when collapsed to mono, but making the instrument sound kind of detuned and wobbly. Generally I use chorus to add a bit of stereo width and it sounds great (e.g. on a Rhodes part), but oftentimes when I check in mono I prefer the sound of it turned off.

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