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2015/03/18 12:10:36 (permalink)

What do you think about future features coming to Platimum?

I think that the features listed in the what's up next in Platinum are going to be the extent of the big features that we're going to see for the first year cycle on the new membership plan. They will finish putting these out through the course of the year. Scattered in there will be samples and other throw away (YMMV) content. I made the decision to get in on the ground floor of the membership plan to stay current, not knowing what to expect. But if this will be what to expect, I can wait and see before renewing for year 2 of the membership program. It was actually the XLN offer that helped me make the decision to upgrade, because I was happy with X3.
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Re: What do you think? 2015/03/18 12:20:53 (permalink)
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Re: What do you think? 2015/03/18 12:23:45 (permalink)
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Re: What do you think? 2015/03/18 17:12:18 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby rtucker55 2015/03/19 08:59:32
Personally I'm happy for any new features, but the most important things for me are in order:
 
1.  Bug Fixes
2.  Workflow enhancements
3.  Performance improvements (Though performance is pretty good right now.)
4.  Additional native features
5.  Additional content
 
I'd be happy if they just continued to fix bugs, anything else is gravy.  (Of course YMMV).

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Re: What do you think? 2015/03/18 17:15:53 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby rtucker55 2015/03/19 08:59:35
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Personally I'm happy for any new features, but the most important things for me are in order:
 
1.  Bug Fixes
2.  Workflow enhancements
3.  Performance improvements (Though performance is pretty good right now.)
4.  Additional native features
5.  Additional content
 
I'd be happy if they just continued to fix bugs, anything else is gravy.  (Of course YMMV).


Same here - I would say you got the order right too.

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Re: What do you think? 2015/03/18 17:54:28 (permalink)
I normally would say that I'm all for bug fixes... but a lot of the ideas in the 'Features & Ideas' forum are really great.
Also...
I also am really really curious about the new drum replacement feature. I just got Trigger 2 and have just started using it on incoming projects with poorly recorded drums and have been having fun with it (sometimes getting incredible results)... but using it's midi out or the midi generated from Melodyne isn't accurate enough to really use the included XLN Addictive Drum VSTi without going in and individually moving around every midi note...
 
I'm curious if Sonar will give us a sample accurate way of sound/drum replacing with Addictive drums. That would be really really cool for me.
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Re: What do you think? 2015/03/19 08:50:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby rtucker55 2015/03/19 08:59:56
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Personally I'm happy for any new features, but the most important things for me are in order:
 
1.  Bug Fixes
2.  Workflow enhancements
3.  Performance improvements (Though performance is pretty good right now.)
4.  Additional native features
5.  Additional content
 
I'd be happy if they just continued to fix bugs, anything else is gravy.  (Of course YMMV).


Same here - I would say you got the order right too.




Same here!

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Re: What do you think? 2015/03/19 08:58:27 (permalink)
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Personally I'm happy for any new features, but the most important things for me are in order:
 
1.  Bug Fixes
2.  Workflow enhancements
3.  Performance improvements (Though performance is pretty good right now.)
4.  Additional native features
5.  Additional content
 
I'd be happy if they just continued to fix bugs, anything else is gravy.  (Of course YMMV).


Same here! (I would give the same priority to 2 and 3 however). (1) should have 60% resources spent on it , (2) and (3) 30%. The rest 10%... When most bugs are fixed that could be reviewed.

You will notice the most popular enhancements requested in features and ideas forum are to do with workflow.

Good thread!
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Re: What do you think? 2015/03/19 10:19:22 (permalink)
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Personally I'm happy for any new features, but the most important things for me are in order:
 
1.  Bug Fixes
2.  Workflow enhancements
3.  Performance improvements (Though performance is pretty good right now.)
4.  Additional native features
5.  Additional content
 
I'd be happy if they just continued to fix bugs, anything else is gravy.  (Of course YMMV).


 
Couldn't agree more.

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Re: What do you think? 2015/03/19 10:36:07 (permalink)
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Personally I'm happy for any new features, but the most important things for me are in order:
 
1.  Bug Fixes
2.  Workflow enhancements
3.  Performance improvements (Though performance is pretty good right now.)
4.  Additional native features
5.  Additional content
 
I'd be happy if they just continued to fix bugs, anything else is gravy.  (Of course YMMV).


+1
Also pretty much what I told in survey they had a few days ago.
 
I think it's very bold of Cake to have this future glance.
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Re: What do you think? 2015/03/19 10:52:12 (permalink)
  I finally got a real drum kit in my studio. I'm looking forward to the drum replacement function.
  I'm getting a good live drum sound but it would be nice to augment them with some samples. 

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Re: What do you think? 2015/03/19 21:42:32 (permalink)
I've already used the (very convenient) VocalSync Rendering update, two of the new impulses for ReMatrix, and Craig's VoxTools FX chain in a project, so I'm pretty pleased with the first update!  And I can see using the Piezo FX Chain and maybe some of the Hardgroove stuff at some point, not to mention the fixes and Mix Recall changes.   So if the rest of the year is anything near what the first update was, then it should be good year for SONAR.     I say bring it on...
 

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Re: What do you think? 2015/03/19 21:52:28 (permalink)
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Personally I'm happy for any new features, but the most important things for me are in order:
 
1.  Bug Fixes
2.  Workflow enhancements
3.  Performance improvements (Though performance is pretty good right now.)
4.  Additional native features
5.  Additional content
 
I'd be happy if they just continued to fix bugs, anything else is gravy.  (Of course YMMV).



+1 That nails it on the head for me as well. 1-3 specifically. #4 would rank higher if it was geared more to "overhaul existing native features" (AS, SV, yada yada - which would probably lump it into #2).

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Re: What do you think? 2015/03/19 21:56:26 (permalink)
Is this the first thread ever where everybody agrees? :)

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Re: What do you think about future features coming to Platimum? 2015/03/20 00:24:13 (permalink)
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I think that the features listed in the what's up next in Platinum are going to be the extent of the big features that we're going to see for the first year cycle on the new membership plan.



FYI, Cakewalk used to say nothing at all about upcoming updates. They're lifting the curtain a bit, but they're still not going to give the roadmap for the whole year.

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Re: What do you think about future features coming to Platimum? 2015/03/20 01:13:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tparker24 2015/03/20 19:17:54
Couldn't care less about the upcoming features, Sonar has enough features to satisfy anyone. Any shortcomings are workflow related, making everything faster and simplifying certain things would make it much better. I'd rather Cakewalk focus on workflow, bug fixes, and most important of all just bring back the color options they removed. 

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Re: What do you think about future features coming to Platimum? 2015/03/20 02:33:40 (permalink)
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Couldn't care less about the upcoming features, Sonar has enough features to satisfy anyone. Any shortcomings are workflow related, making everything faster and simplifying certain things would make it much better. I'd rather Cakewalk focus on workflow, bug fixes, and most important of all just bring back the color options they removed. 


+1 to all of that
+a multi-freeze button, a few more key bindings for the "newer" features (e.g. ProChannel), some fixes/improvements to control surfaces issues (which we know won't happen) ... and remembering MIDI devices & channels based on their "friendly name" ...
 
if all that happens I'll be so happy that I'll cry all day ;-) <<d**n which song did I steal that from ????>>
 
EDIT: there are really great suggestions in the feature request forum ... I'm curious if we see those being acknowledged and implemented or if it is just a place for us to vent hot air

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Re: What do you think about future features coming to Platimum? 2015/03/20 05:58:51 (permalink)
@FreeFlyBird

Here is your answer on #19:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3192635

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Re: What do you think about future features coming to Platimum? 2015/03/20 06:19:14 (permalink)
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I think that the features listed in the what's up next in Platinum are going to be the extent of the big features that we're going to see for the first year cycle on the new membership plan.



FYI, Cakewalk used to say nothing at all about upcoming updates. They're lifting the curtain a bit, but they're still not going to give the roadmap for the whole year.


asking for a year's membership in advance without "lifting the curtain a bit" would be a very big ask...
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Re: What do you think about future features coming to Platimum? 2015/03/20 07:00:51 (permalink)
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I think that the features listed in the what's up next in Platinum are going to be the extent of the big features that we're going to see for the first year cycle on the new membership plan.


As Craig hints it probably isn't but I wish it was, as that would make more time for bug fixes and workflow/performance improvements. So far opinion seems to side heavily towards these categories.

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Re: What do you think about future features coming to Platimum? 2015/03/20 07:08:08 (permalink)
     I would personally be content if all the little ghost devils (read "glitches")
that have plagued this great (I still believe) program, since it's inception, where gone.
 
E.G: From Sonar 2XL up to 6, if you had the midi activity icon in the taskbar,
       Sonar.exe would refuse to terminate when you exited the program.
 
EG: From Sonar X1 to present day;
      I can still launch Sonar Platinum on my high powered,
      well configured DAW, add an audio track, open the Inspector,
      switch to the Pro Channel tab and
      EXPECT  the Console Emulator and Tube Saturation console graphics to be
      malformed and grey with no information  contained.
 
IOW, I just want the core features to work as advertised,
QUIETLY, and with FREEDOM FROM "WORKAROUNDS"
 
In Cakewalk's defense...
 
     I Have a Casual Relationship with coding.
I suspect that most of the unsolved/unsolvable to this point
problems with this (I say again) great program has
have to do with the pit bull-like death grip that
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Re: What do you think about future features coming to Platimum? 2015/03/20 07:10:59 (permalink)
The drum replacer is something that I could have used at one time or another but I got the job done with Audio Snap. I still think that it's a good tool to have in your tool chest. The on screen keyboard, not so much. I won't even install it if given the choice. I can't remember what the third item in line was but I know that it didn't interest me much.

I'm more about workflow improvements like others have already mentioned and posted by myself and others in the FR forum.

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Re: What do you think about future features coming to Platimum? 2015/03/20 07:21:15 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby RGDS 2015/03/20 16:55:06
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@FreeFlyBird

Here is your answer on #19:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3192635


cool :-) definitely good to know. had missed that post

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Re: What do you think about future features coming to Platimum? 2015/03/20 16:41:40 (permalink)
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I think that the features listed in the what's up next in Platinum are going to be the extent of the big features that we're going to see for the first year cycle on the new membership plan.


As Craig hints it probably isn't but I wish it was, as that would make more time for bug fixes and workflow/performance improvements. So far opinion seems to side heavily towards these categories.



Cakewalk will definitely be emphasizing improvements to the core functionality, but also remember that the people working on bug fixes and such aren't necessarily the same people who create the new features. One doesn't always exist at the expense of the other.

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Re: What do you think about future features coming to Platimum? 2015/03/20 16:59:32 (permalink)
I'm quite happy with my purchase as is, if all we got was bug fixes for the rest of the year, I'd still be a happy camper. Anything above and beyond that is a bonus, which I would be happy and thankful to receive :)
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Re: What do you think about future features coming to Platimum? 2015/03/20 18:23:08 (permalink)
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I think that the features listed in the what's up next in Platinum are going to be the extent of the big features that we're going to see for the first year cycle on the new membership plan. They will finish putting these out through the course of the year. Scattered in there will be samples and other throw away (YMMV) content. I made the decision to get in on the ground floor of the membership plan to stay current, not knowing what to expect. But if this will be what to expect, I can wait and see before renewing for year 2 of the membership program. It was actually the XLN offer that helped me make the decision to upgrade, because I was happy with X3.




I agree, this upgrade package, at least so far, is very disappointing compared to X3. I didn't buy it and I've seen nothing in the first two updates to make me wish I had. The happy clappers seem happy, but then again they always are.
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Re: What do you think about future features coming to Platimum? 2015/03/20 19:07:23 (permalink)
X3 was great, I stopped way back at Pro Audio 8/9, kept upgrading through out, but not using, just checking it out every now and then while I spent a bit of time with Pro Tools, and the majority of the time with Reaper. Then X3 came along, and as usual I checked it out, and jumped ship back to sonar. To me Sonar Platinum is X3 and more, how much more I guess is up to you, but it has things that make life a little easier, added stuff like Rematrix, the Anderton stuff, mix recall etc etc, litle things here and there. And for $149 ($180AU), what's that ?, 6 packets of smokes if your a smoker, blow more than that for one night down the pub, and I got the latest version of something I like to use as long as I like, with more to come. Some stuff like AD2 are of no interest to me because 1, I already own it and most of it's addons, and 2, I don't have a very high opinion of it, I use something that in my opinion is infinitely better. For me it was having the latest version, the fixes that come with it, the rest of the stuff that is bundled in that I actually like and will use is a bonus, as is whatever else comes along.
 
I guess you can't please everyone, but I am glad I updated. I couldn't/wouldn't go back to X3 now. as good as it was for me. As usual Frown Town residents seem down, but then again, they always are.
 
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post edited by jih64 - 2015/03/21 01:15:47
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