Phase issues when using AD2 and parallel bus compression

I really liked the way AD2 sounded when I first listened and selected my 3 paks ...
 
Now, when using them I have 2 issues, which I really don't understand:
 
(A) Why are basically all presets so hot??? This makes them unusable out of the box because ProChannel and Sonar FX bin are overloaded / clipping ... is there any general setting / knob / switch where I could bring that down? So far I've only found an output knob per channel which you can set to max. -12 dB (but that is not enough in many kit presets) and the channel faders ...
 
(B) I usually route drum tracks to a drum bus and send the drum bus to another bus (drum comp bus) for traditional parallel compression (NY style). This works fine with all VSTs I own without having to freeze ... but when doing the same thing with AD2 I get very strong phase issues as soon as I pull the compression bus fader up, i.e. there must be a processing delay involved which causes the phase shift ... Pls note this is independent of compressor used (ProChannel compressor, WAVES, IK) and is not present with other VSTs (if I route K5 Abbey Road drums throuh the same buses it's not there) ... something is going on inside AD2 because when freeze AD2, these phase issue are gone ...

About the phasing issue: make sure you are not also routing ad2's master and room channels. Mixing say the snare output with the ouput of the parrallel compressor bus and the room/master ad2 outputs will cause phasing if the snare kit piece is contributing to the room or master channel.

I am not sure yet if you can shut that off. Each time the AD2 engine is running, the master out has an audio buffer running and keeps the last 15 seconds of it. I have not seen any issue from this, since it is essentially just a slice of the master out audio.

precisionguided
You can try sound radix pi, waves in phase, or even vocalign if you bounce the outputs first.

When bounced it's phase aligned anyway ... just while working with it as a VSTi it's not ...
 
Anyway, it's not critical because I usually don't apply the parallel compression until I get down to mix the project and by then all synths are frozen/bounced ...  I just noticed this issue when pulling AD2 into a "standard" song template of mine, which has the drum compression bus setup already ...

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any update on this issue?  I noticed this happening yesterday when using AD2 and sending to a bus trying to use parallel compression.  I don't want to have to bounce down to audio tracks to see how the compression sounds as I will usually need to tinker with things in AD2 (room, OH, snare, kick) to get the sound I want.
 
Is the (hopefully temporary) solution to add PDC to the send bus to line things up? Is the amount of samples verified to be 64 or is this dependent on how your soundcard ASIO is setup?
 
Thanks,
-Brian.

Regarding the hotness of the output from AD2, I find if you use the AD2 track template (or something similar) you can pull down the input gain of the midi track and it lowers the gain on all the drum tracks. (Please correct me if this does something else that is bad :P )

Also, with the new update to AD2 you can now output from AD2 Post-Fader. I haven't tried this yet but I assume that would work too.

millzy
In my case it wasn't 64 samples that fixed the phasing.

That's odd because another user in the other thread reported that Addictive Keys also requires 64 samples of PDC for its onboard FX. This really shouldn't vary from one environment to another.
 
Glad to help in any case.