X3e AND current Platinum problems dragging midi to desktop (destructive)

I must be bonkers.
 
With different projects in either X3e or current Platinum, I am having issues with drag and drop export of midi data to the desktop.
 
So, I am guessing it is because I have lost my mind and am doing something wrong.
 
1.  Highlight desired midi track, which contains numerous midi clips, all created with Step Sequencer.  (if that matters)
2.  Right-click on one of the highlighted clips, then click on Bounce to Clip, to create a single midi clip from all the existing clips.  (result is a single clip, as expected)
3.  Click again on midi track to highlight/select midi clip (which is the newly-created single clip of entire track)
4.  Drag and drop midi clip to desktop.  This DOES create a midi file, as expected.
5.  What is NOT expected is this also resulting in the highlighted midi clip being DELETED from the midi track.
 
In other words, while the drag and drop does save the midi clip as an exported midi file on the desktop, it also has the highly undesired effect of deleting the midi clip from the highlighted clip for the track, effectively wiping the track of all midi data.
 
If I click on Edit, I can recover the clip by clicking on Undo Delete, but I certainly do not recall ever having to do this in the past.
 
So, can someone please either give me the correct way to accomplish the drag and drop export, or confirm that this is indeed a bug?
 
Again, this behavior exists in both X3e and the current Platinum, on a patch current Windows 8.1 - i7 (see specs).
 
Bob Bone
 

Try holding Control button whilst dragging, which should copy  the clip to desktop.
 
Not at my DAW at moment to try it.
 
 
Edited for clarity.

Perhaps it is the WINDOWS behaviour? - ie Windows "moves" files on the same drive and "copies" files to different drives

It would be interesting to test whether a drag and drop (without CTRL) to a different drive would cause a "copy"?

robert_e_bone
I guess staying up all night working on odd meter sequencing was not the best idea.
 
Yes - holding CTRL while dragging worked - I just do not recall having to do that in the past, nor did I see that being done in 5-6 past threads about it that I found when I searched prior to posting.
 
So, is this how it has always worked in Sonar?
 
Bob Bone
 

 
You're welcome.
 
Having finally had a chance to test this out, I am not seeing this behaviour in X1, X2, X3 or Platinum.
 
When I drag a MIDI clip to desktop (without holding control) - the original clip remains in the track in Sonar.
 
Did you try rebooting the computer?  Whilst testing this, I tried X1, X2 and X3 with no issue.  When I then opened Platinum, dragging to desktop would not work at all.  Restarting fixed it.
 
Anyhow, I am glad that my suggestion at least helped.

I can reproduce the drag-and-drop to desktop problem in Platinum (32 and 64bit).  The cursor changes to a '+' when outside of Platinum, but no file is created.
 
Sonar X3E works as expected.
 
I found a post in the Problem Reports forum that references the problem, but it doesn't appear that anyone generated a CWBRN report. (http://forum.cakewalk.com...-Desktop-m3181996.aspx)
 
 
Ron
 

Strange - Just tried it again here - works like a charm.
 
System specific, I guess., or steps being used are varying.

1. On Win8.1 x64 left click and drag from folders on the same drive or different drives on the same computer copies the file.

as Sonar gets its behavior from Windows. I keep my projects on a seperate drive, dragging a MIDI or Audio track to the desktop copies the file.

The only time I can get the files to move is if I click and drag them to folders up in the same tree

Boydie
I would guess that changing your desktop location was when things changed for you?

I can't say for within Sonar, but within Windows things still behave the same even if the desktop has been moved elsewhere (Windows still behaves like the desktop is on C as it should since it's going through a symbolic link).
 
I don't see how Sonar could know any different.
 

robert_e_bone
Well, I did not use that mlink thing that scook uses, to relocate my library folders (Desktop, Documents, Pictures, Downloads, etc).
 
Instead, I went into the Properties of each of those folders, and there is a Location tab.  It is there that I pointed to a different drive than C: for each of them).
 
I do not believe there is a symbolic link involved when doing it that way - though I am not 100% certain.  It IS, however, different than creating that link, like what scook and others do.
 
And, based on the behavior I have observed, Windows is behaving as if the Desktop was on the same drive ans IS doing a Move, rather than a Copy, unless I hold CTRL.  This to me is backwards from how I used to do it.
 

I'm too rusty to remember how I went about showing hidden links in windows, I just presumed they were junctions.  I think they are but they're hidden by windows.
 
But anyway, I also moved the above folders using the Properties/Location tab and Windows copies or moves things correctly.  That is, it doesn't (for example) act like the my Desktop folder is still on the C drive.  Dragging a file from the C drive to my Desktop folder (which is on another drive) automatically invokes a copy and not a move.
 

I just wanted to make a quick point between this thread and the "associated" Problem Report. This thread is trucking under the presumption that a program cannot be made to intercept Windows messages (and they can). It is possible that the new SONAR was compiled for Win8+ and not made backwards compatible to Win7 (unlikely).
 
My situation is that I cannot do any MIDI copies whatsoever in Platinum (so I would be happy to even get what the OP does) but works fine in X3 (identical setup in both scenarios). The situation in the Problem Reports is valid.