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2015/03/23 08:26:17 (permalink)
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Allow Renaming of Projects

I know we can export to a different name, and maybe I've missed it.......but I can't find any way to rename my entire project.
Many times I've been working a project and after thinking it over I want to rename it.
 
Thanks for any help on this!

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Re: Allow Renaming of Projects 2015/03/23 08:55:20 (permalink)
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I just do it in the file system... also the assets file. Save as works too.

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Re: Allow Renaming of Projects 2015/03/23 09:13:36 (permalink)
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I have saved as a works...but wanted to go back to my original project and have forgotten the original name. :)
And I seem to do this every other project. I'll get halfway through and think the way the creation process is going it doesn't sound like what I named it anymore.
 
What is the assets file? And is that as easy as having a "rename project" feature? Thanks!

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Re: Allow Renaming of Projects 2015/03/23 09:42:25 (permalink)
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If you look in the folder, you can sort by date modified to find a project version you are interested in.

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Re: Allow Renaming of Projects 2015/03/23 09:55:36 (permalink)
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I know we can just save the project with a different name, but I consider renaming a project a very basic feature, so I voted.

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Re: Allow Renaming of Projects 2015/03/23 10:36:37 (permalink)
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Also to consider is if to rename project folder as well.
 
I find Save Copy To very useful for this purpose. I create a new folder, and select that as well - so all stuff is relevant names.
 
Then I open this copy and continue from there.
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Rename Project 2015/06/14 15:19:30 (permalink)
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Just read about this idea in the Sonar forum.
 
I'd love the ability to rename the entire project from within Sonar.
This could (should) include the ability to rename or create the necessary Windows folders and to rename any associated audio tracks

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Re: Rename Project 2015/06/14 15:45:49 (permalink)
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Workarounds:

1 - Save As followed by (manual) delete

2 - For new projects (the case originally mentioned), create all new to-be-named projects with audio in the shared audio folder, then do a Save As with per project audio when you know the name

3 - Don't bother about it...save as and rename the cwp. So the audio folder might be named something different - that's SONAR's problem, not yours :-)
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Re: Rename Project 2015/06/14 17:17:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Starise 2015/07/06 13:26:34
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I don't need a workaround, I'd like a one click solution (+ naming)

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Re: Rename Project 2015/06/14 20:20:58 (permalink)

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Re: Rename Project 2015/06/14 21:27:55 (permalink)
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I just use Windows to rename, copy, backup, etc.

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Re: Rename Project 2015/06/18 02:38:36 (permalink)
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Me too, just use the OS rename functions.     Seems like a misuse of programming power, so no, I don't vote for this one. 
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Re: Rename Project 2015/06/20 21:05:29 (permalink)
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As some other posters mentioned, if you rename the cwp and the project folder, that should do the trick. One thing of note is that the audio files within the project folder would still have the old project name as the prefix of the .wav file names.
 
Within the project, sometimes if you click on Track -> Copy track names to clip names (which would change the clip names) and saving it afterwards would sometimes update the wav file names. Most of the time it doesn't help though.
 
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Re: Rename Project 2015/07/05 18:08:12 (permalink)
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When I do this, I do a Save As, with the copy all audio option checked, and in the Save As dialog box I create a new project folder with the new name and make sure I navigate to the new project folder before completing the Save As.
 
This copies all the ACTIVE audio clips, (just the ones still in use in the project), with the new project name, into a properly named project folder with the new name.
 
Does the above what you seek to achieve?  I am able to do it entirely from within the Save As dialog box AND trim old clips in the process. And hitting ALT+F, then A, launches the Save As dialog.
 
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Re: Rename Project 2015/07/06 13:39:36 (permalink)
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For me at least,  part of the idea behind my request was to simplify the process and not leave unused folders laying around in the system, and make sure all folders follow the old project. I understand that these functions are part of the way Windows handles any program save as or rename. There are  work arounds some of which are great ideas  I intend to try...so maybe this is moot and seen as a kind of redundancy. Some of these ideas involve a physical renaming of folders and re direct. This is what I'm trying to avoid.
 
What I seem to end up with when I save as under a different name are two projects.
 
In using a "save as" with copy all audio checked everything is changed to the new name, but are there still files left from my older creation under the old name? If so this seems to be a waste of HDD space IMHO. Essentially we have created two projects.
 
Maybe I'm making something really simple harder....if so I have digressed. I mean, it isn't really complicated to do it the ways stated, but if it can be made into a more direct process with less chance of user error and save disc space why not?

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Re: Rename Project 2015/07/06 21:23:59 (permalink)
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Studio One does it easily (just File -> Rename). This automatically changes the name of the project's folder, project file in it, and the project in the Recent Files list both on the startup page and in File -> Recent Files. The list of course does not contain the pre-renaming project, since it no longer exists. 

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Re: Rename Project 2015/07/11 02:47:46 (permalink)
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I don't happen to feel any particular burden at the fact that a Save As with copy all audio leaving the original folder out there.  All I then do is a single click on the old folder, and hit SHIFT+Delete and it's gone - permanently, not moved to the recycle bin.  So, for me, the total duration a 2nd folder is out there is a matter of literally a few seconds.
 
While anything that does help streamline tasks and time is generally a good idea (meaning I am certainly not opposed to them doing something like what you seek, it's more of a 'when' thing for me) - I would myself vote that their developers address other more helpful changes, like to Step Sequencer dealing with eighth-note meter bases, or nested folders, or track colors being saved with track templates.
 
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Idea for organizing projects more effectively. 2016/09/18 10:06:04 (permalink)
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This may only to apply to a few people who are chaotic and bad at planning :) BUUuuut.  
 
I would like a simple way to rename project folders and project files.  Very often I start a project with no idea of what it will be about or what it should be titled.  Thus I create the project named after a synth voice or instrument, or "Loud and Boomy."  Then I work on it a bit, figure out a title, and set it aside for working on it later.
 
Later, I remember the actual real title I gave it, but not the project folder's name.  So I go thru project folders opening sessions till I find the right one.  
 
I would love it if I could press "Edit -> Project -> Rename Project" and get a dialogue to rename it.  The the original project folder could be given a new name, files moved to it, and the original stupidly-named project folder would be deleted.

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Re: Idea for organizing projects more effectively. 2016/09/18 10:24:04 (permalink)
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Not a bad idea.  In the mean time, I use Save As for a work around
 
I do the same with initial names of yymmdd_UNP
 
Then I use Save As when they shape up a bit into something real.  The added benefit is that the initial start is still there if I want it for something in the future


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Re: Idea for organizing projects more effectively. 2016/09/18 15:56:15 (permalink)
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An earlier thread on the same subject:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Allow-Renaming-of-Projects-m3195569.aspx
[Link now redundant due to threads being merged]
post edited by Kev999 - 2016/09/18 22:51:27

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Re: Idea for organizing projects more effectively. 2016/09/18 16:09:35 (permalink)
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Re: Idea for organizing projects more effectively. 2016/09/19 16:46:03 (permalink)
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I've come across this from time to time. The idea is to rename a project and all its associated files to a new name in a simple and quick manor. I have used save as  many times to do this. However, it is unsatisfactory for what is being asked for here. I would be in favor of a simple and quick way to do this.
 
Though I should remind you all that Sonar was one of the very first non destructive DAWs ever. In keeping with that philosophy I can see why CW has not bothered to do this. Yet its time to rethink how useful this would be for many.  

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Re: Idea for organizing projects more effectively. 2016/09/19 21:57:12 (permalink)
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Yes, I agree with what Hammerhole said, quote:
 
"I would like a simple way to rename project folders and project files.  Very often I start a project with no idea of what it will be about or what it should be titled.  Thus I create the project named after a synth voice or instrument, or "Loud and Boomy."  Then I work on it a bit, figure out a title, and set it aside for working on it later.
 
Later, I remember the actual real title I gave it, but not the project folder's name.  So I go thru project folders opening sessions till I find the right one.  
 
I would love it if I could press "Edit -> Project -> Rename Project" and get a dialogue to rename it.  The the original project folder could be given a new name, files moved to it, and the original stupidly-named project folder would be deleted."
 
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