How do I bounce just reverb signal to a track

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2015/03/26 14:51:43 (permalink)

How do I bounce just reverb signal to a track

I am looking to treat a vocal track with reverb. I've got my head about half way around this, but I need a little help. I would like to print the reverb only to a track. Is there a way to "bounce" that? What reverbs allow you to separate the wet signal from the dry?
Once I get a completely wet signal on a track, my intention is to use the dry vocal to run a sidechain compressor to duck the wet vocal until there are short pauses that allow the wet signal to pass. That way, the reverb will stay out of the way until I need it.
I suppose I could just bounce with a completely wet signal (and maybe that's what I'll do) to track(s), but it seems if there is a way to just send the wet portion of the signal to a separate track, so that it's kind of pre mixed to about what I need, the rest can be just subtle fine tuning. My plug in arsenal is pretty much limited to Sonar Platinum Producer stuff. I think I have plenty of choices from that pallete, which ones do you prefer and why, given the task at hand?

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    savoy
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    Re: How do I bounce just reverb signal to a track 2015/03/26 15:15:35 (permalink)
    [edit]sorry i missread.
     
    you can insert-send to a buss & from there put a verb full wet..
     sonitus reverb is good for what you want to do(wet signal only)
     
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    post edited by savoy - 2015/03/26 15:30:40
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    Re: How do I bounce just reverb signal to a track 2015/03/26 16:03:13 (permalink)
    Can't you just put the reverb on full "wet" right as an insert on your track?
    Then bounce this to another track ("bounce to track").
    And delete the reverb plugin from the original track.

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    Re: How do I bounce just reverb signal to a track 2015/03/26 16:55:38 (permalink)
    thanks guys that's kinda what I was thinking. I was just kinda wondering if there was anyway to route just the wet side, like some stereo pedal units do with delays and such. I think I have a good idea where I have to go with this.

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    Re: How do I bounce just reverb signal to a track 2015/03/26 21:12:38 (permalink)
    JBraner - If you did it this way, you're getting the audio + reverb. He is looking to separate only the reverb echos, without the original audio. Savoy has it right.
     
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    Re: How do I bounce just reverb signal to a track 2015/03/26 22:25:15 (permalink)
    No need to bounce down the "wet" side of the reverb. Put the reverb on a bus and put a send in the vocal track pointing at the bus.
     
    Set the reverb fully wet then put your compressor of choice after the reverb so it works on the wet signal after it leaves the reverb. Sidechain the dry vocal track into that compressor and adjust as required.
    Another way to set up a ducking reverb (or delay) is put the reverb on a bus as above then using automation to control the level of the wet signal from the reverb/delay. A bit more work but it can produce better results as you have more control over what's going on.
     
    Yet another way is to seperate the vocal take into clips, say each of one phrase followed by the gap you want the reverb to fill. Then split those clips so that the tail end of each is a seperate clip, drag that clip out a bit to make room for the reverb tail then put the reverb just on that "tail end" clip as a clip effect.

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    Re: How do I bounce just reverb signal to a track 2015/03/27 05:50:06 (permalink)
    JBraner - If you did it this way, you're getting the audio + reverb.

    If you put your reverb on just wet (or 100% wet) - all you're gonna get is the "reverb" part, not the original audio. It's exactly the same as making it 100% wet on a buss.
     
    I think the OP has it worked out - but if you just want to bounce it quickly, this is much easier than setting up busses etc (just for the sake of bouncing the pure reverb part)
     
    Of course if you want flexibility, and didn't really want to bounce the 100% wet signal - then listen to everybody else ;-)
     
     

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    Re: How do I bounce just reverb signal to a track 2015/03/27 09:14:35 (permalink)
    I almost always have effects in buses. This way I control of all parameters of the effect. Including sending it to another bus for further processing.
     
    Pretty much I only use EQ on channels.
     
    As described by others: put the reverb in a bus
    Add a send from the vocal track to the bus
    Adjust volumes to taste
    Create a new track, name it so the wav file is properly named
    Select the vocal track
    Bounce to tracks
    Select the new track as destination
    Select buses as the source
    Select only the reverb bus
    Select Stereo
    Select NO dither
    Make it so.
     
    With the reverb now on a bus you can use it later. It essentially uses no CPU/Ram by just lurking. Disable it if you feel the need.
     
    Some have reported that reverb tails sound better when recorded in real time instead of Fast Bounce. 
     
     
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    Re: How do I bounce just reverb signal to a track 2015/03/27 09:15:59 (permalink)
    And also for later:
    Choose the vocal track and save it as a template. Next time insert the track template, the bus and reverb will spontaneously appear and much joy will be shared by all.
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