I should Know This but I don't

Select the ones you want to fade and fade them while holding ctrl. 

For fades its quick and easy. 

Can't you send them to a bus and fade that, since they apparently belong together?

Sanderxpander
Can't you send them to a bus and fade that, since they apparently belong together?

You can send tracks to a bus but not clips.

Fades are not clip envelopes. They are fades. Every clip has a fade in and a fade out. They are handy and useful. 

I don't mean to get irritated now but I feel that you lecturing me somehow on a topic I know and understand. This is probably not your intent but I'll try to explain my post (again).

The OP says he wants to fade out a bunch of tracks together, separate from the rest of the mix. He then asked if it was possible to copy clip envelopes as if that was the most logical way to do it. I merely offered a different solution to his problem because a single bus fade seems much easier. If the intent is really to simply fade the tracks, a bus fade would actually be BETTER because, as you say, clip envelopes happen before any inserts so the sound of the tracks could change significantly if you use them.

So again, I don't see the benefit of multiple clip fades IN THE CONTEXT of his OP. It seems way simpler to send those tracks to a bus and fade the bus. If there is some other, unstated reason why that can't be done, we may need another solution. Track envelopes would then still seem more useful than clip envelopes for the reasons you stated.

Agreed. You can't copy clip envelopes from and to a track to begin with, the whole premise is flawed. You could copy track envelopes though.

I merely meant to offer a different solution since the discussion became really focused on clip envelopes when it's not even clear from the OP that that's actually what's requested/needed.

I don't believe there is such a thing as buss fade out in Sonar. You need a clip with ends to access the fade. One can use a volume envelope and "fade" that out but is not a fade. Clips have fades buses don't. At least I don't see one.  

As you can see the fade is already there. No need to automate anything. If you select more than one track you can apply the same fade to all selected tracks at one time. Nothing is easier or faster. To select contiguous tracks use shift. To select discontinuous tracks use ctrl.  

Sanderxpander
John, Jim is not talking about clip fades, he is talking about a volume envelope.
Clip fades will work well unless you want to record fader movement.

Jim, you should be able to copy/paste automation just fine. I just double checked. After recording your automation, open the automation lanes on the track and select the portion of the envelope you want to copy (make sure you're on the automation lane, not the track proper!). Hit CTRL+C. Now select your target track and CTRL+V. Make sure your Now marker is at the beginning of your selection range or the whole thing will shift to the left or right.

It still seems to me like you could be doing this with a single bus by sending all tracks and buses there. Is there any reason you can't?

There is no need to use automation for fading. I use automation all the time. I also use a Mackie Control to do automation.  I do not use automation for fading a track or tracks. I use fades that are built in to all clips. 

jimkleban
Thanks everyone for the input.... but when I perform the fade out with a fader and record it, it turns into an envelop on the track.... nice smooth performed fade.... so now I want to copy the fader automation to another track.  I can not figure out how to select the envelop, copy it and then paste ONLY the envelop to another track.
 
Hopefully, this question is a bit more clear.
 
Thanks in advance,
Jim
 

Select the whole track (the one with the envelope)
 
Edit > Copy > Special
 
Clear all check boxes apart from "Automation"
 
Select your destination track
 
Ctrl + v, or Edit > Paste, or if you really want to double check what will be pasted, Edit > Paste > Special

Thanks guys.... sorry I wasn't more clear in the OP.
 
Jim

Since the discussion has gotten a little more general...here's what I like about clip envelopes.
 
If you select a bunch of them, doing a fade on one of them affects all of them. This saves me a ton of time when doing loop or sample libraries because I can add a quick 2 or 3 millisecond fade-in to eliminate clicks to dozens of clips at once.
 
Because the clip gain is pre-FX bin, having an envelope before an amp sim means you can alter clip amplitude levels to vary the amount of drive. For example "fading in" over a measure increases the intensity of the distortion.
 
You can create complex automation curves in the clip envelope, then use a volume automation as a "master volume control."