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New song - Let It Fly (updated 4/6/15)

Hello to everyone.  The past month has been busy for me musically.  I upgraded to Platinum, and then my sweetheart gave me a new Paul Reed Smith Tremonti SE for my birthday a couple weeks ago.  So, I felt compelled to do some work in the studio to see what I had, and just fiddling around, came up with this ditty to showcase my guitar and the new tools in Sonar.  It's less than two weeks old, so all ideas are open and welcome.  It's something of a hard rock hoedown and can be found here: http://www.soundclick.com...hi&songID=13078742
 
updated at 10:05pm CDT on 4/6/15
 
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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/23 14:09:28 (permalink)
    heavy metal hoedown!!
    LOL,
    yes, it is.
    cool tones,
    interesting riff with the harmonization...
    the bass/low end is a bit muddy,
    and it could use a more aggressive kick pulse,
    i think that would tie all the cool textured stuff together..
    the snare rim riff going on makes sense,
    from a 'hoedown' perspective,
    but honestly, it get repetitive too fast,
    and if you broke it up with a regular jamming drum part,
    and only used the rim shot thing for just certain sections,
    and keep it short,
    it will be way more interesting...
    cool tune.
    dont be afraid to get even weirder.....

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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/23 18:50:02 (permalink)
    Thanks, Bat, for the good ideas.  I've already changed the snare in the verses and just kept the sidestick on the breaks.  I cleaned up the bass gtr. a bit, but I didn't touch the bass drum.  Good ear and good call.

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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/24 13:34:01 (permalink)
    I would agree the kick definitely needs some more presence, good basis to work from I am sure you will bring this into shape.
     
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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/24 13:41:53 (permalink)
    Yes, love the description "heavy metal hoedown". Although I'd classify it as "hard rock" rather than "metal", but any suitably original piece is gonna defy classification. This reminds me of something ZZ Top might produce, delightfully genre-agnostic. 
     
    Forgive the cliche, but I think it needs a cowbell - behind the cool descending guitar hook.


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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/24 14:57:16 (permalink)
    Interesting style/fusion of Hard Rock, guitars are the main drive for that hoedown feel.

    Great performances, nicely arranged. Mix sounds fine, bass sounds good. Superbly done
     
    Minor criticism: I think a good solid/deep sounding 'Stomp' added to the kick i.e accents (first beat) for the verses, and constant 4/4 flow for the chorus would suit this song/style. This will also balance out the bottom end. Therefore, not so much a mix/balance issue.  The guitar on its own in the intro falls a bit flat (lack-luster) due to the resonance of one note in that particular inversion -- it needs a counter balance to 'strengthen the melody' such as for example, one note sustained by another instrument, maybe use it as a quick build up till the drums kick in.
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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/24 15:05:51 (permalink)
    Love it Lynn - Guitars sound great. 
    Love all the little production touches here and there.
    Brilliant mate
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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/24 15:54:23 (permalink)
    Thanks for your responses.
     
    Wookie, I kicked up the kick drum on this pass.  I can always count on you to hear the bass.
     
    Dave, the cowbell's coming, and hard rock fits better!
     
    Greg, you make a good point.  Give me a few days to deal with this, and we'll see what happens.
     
    Daryl, coming from a master, your words are very encouraging.
     
     

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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/24 15:55:58 (permalink)
    Philz, I greatly appreciate you kind words and time.

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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/24 17:38:03 (permalink)
    Cool touches on the vocals and harmonies. The guitars are cool, and I think it really came together after about the 1:00 mark, almost like you got more sure of it as you went. I'll second (third?) that the kick really could use more bottom. Nice one Lynn!
     
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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/24 22:50:52 (permalink)
    Very cool track. Love the guitars. The bass sounds a little, i don't know... I saw someone up above said muddy... that might be the right word... Just kinda too much... But I saw you said you cleaned it up in a future update? Otherwise I really like this and the overall mix sounds really great. Fun track.

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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/24 23:44:36 (permalink)
    Dan, thanks for weighing in.  I appreciate the comment about the vocals because they were something of a challenge.  I just spent about two hours on the the bass guitar and drum, and I'm afraid if I apply much more bass I'll get a DUI ;)
     
    Dave, thanks for your comments, they're very encouraging.  As noted above, I spent some time on this, but my ears are tired and I could use additional input.
     
    Thanks to all of your for your time.

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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/25 09:10:39 (permalink)
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    Dan, thanks for weighing in.  I appreciate the comment about the vocals because they were something of a challenge.  I just spent about two hours on the the bass guitar and drum, and I'm afraid if I apply much more bass I'll get a DUI ;)
     
    Dave, thanks for your comments, they're very encouraging.  As noted above, I spent some time on this, but my ears are tired and I could use additional input.
     
    Thanks to all of your for your time.




    Hey Lynn, one thing I've learned is you can't have a big bass and a big kick at the same time, unless that's all you have going on. I think you might want to EQ the bass to move it up the frequency scale a bit then the kick can sit better.
     
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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/25 09:32:05 (permalink)
    Hi Lynn,
     
    My first thought was "vocals up please" . . . this is definitely a fun tune, and original as all get out. Genre-bending. I would echo a few of the above comments, I would say ZZ-Top meets Rush. Kind of a prog rock hoe-down.
     
    I absolutely support the more cowbell. It cries for cowbell! Have fun with it!
     
    Also, good supporting background vocals, production touches (were you gargling at one point?!!) they add a lot.
     
    your "chorus" with those three downward-moving chords is kind of nuts, and I like nutty choruses. Well chosen!
     
    The guitar work is great but I thought the sound itself came through just a tad thin, I wonder if it's your amp modelling, what are you using, is there more beef somewheres? Or panning them wider? I dunno.
     
    This is one of those songs that I will remember hearing, it just kind of works and sticks with you. 
     
     
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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/25 17:39:16 (permalink)
    Dan, thanks again for your input.  I'll give your suggestion a try now that my ears are a bit fresher.  I wasn't thinking about the war between the bass gtr and bass drum, but now I'll redirect my focus.
     
    Tom, thank you for the kind words.  The guitars were recorded with Guitar Rig 5 which means I can change the sounds until I get it right.  The gargling effect was raising the modulation mix on the extended notes that I sang, over a period of time and then backing off, vie automation.  And, more cowbell coming up.

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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/25 20:30:29 (permalink)
    Well, here I am again.  I worked several hours just sculpting the bass,cowbell, and vocal response per your suggestions.  This song has come a long way from the simple guitar demo that I recorded, thanks to all your help.  Here it is freshly updated: http://www.soundclick.com...hi&songID=13078742

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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/25 20:41:23 (permalink)
    Lynn, Sounds like a fun song for your new Platinum version and Paul Reed Smith guitar. Nice sounds going on and very nicely executed.
     
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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/26 00:33:10 (permalink)
    You've been busy with all your new tools, lucky! Sounds good.

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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/26 07:20:47 (permalink)
    Lynn!!!  Really cool tune my friend!  Congrats on the new guitar (and a GF who will buy one for ya!!!) 
    Guitar tones sound fine to me.  Kick drum sounds alright too.  The drum beat still leaves me wanting something.  The kick doesn't "drive" in the verses...I think a 4-on-the-floor beat would serve you better than the accented One.  I also think the cowbell should be panned off the top of your vocal and moved to the right.  Can you bring your vocal up and maybe add just a tad of "air" to them?  (Hi EQ).   I had a little trouble understanding the words.
     
    What are you using for bass? It's not "too much", but the tone of it is "rude". (to me)   Be sure it and the kick are not competing for the same frequency.  Or maybe it's just the drone-y notes of the verse that make it sound that way.  (It sounds different when you played more notes in the breaks.)  Maybe a bit more percussive attack?  I don't know.
     
    I love how the guitars sort of come together around 1:02 or so!
     
    Sounds like you had a fun time making this one, and I just love quirky, creative stuff.  This one fits the bill!

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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/26 09:29:28 (permalink)
    Ah what the heck, everyone has had a shot at comparisons, so I'll say ZZ Top meets Huey Lewis . Enjoyed the song Lynn, but can't comment on the mix 'cos I have an ear infection. Excuses...

     
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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/27 18:28:26 (permalink)
    Can definitely hear improvements in the mix. The bass and kick cuts through a bit better. The snare and sticks are a bit busy and robotic, and then the beat holds-back the flow - agree with Tony's suggestion, straight ahead 4/4 driving kick will make those parts flow much better. When the snare comes in for the big change, it will lift the soundscape to higher level, more impact and dynamic.
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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/27 20:43:42 (permalink)
    Really creative Lynn. Lots of good fun playing in this. I like the originality. 
    On critical listen on the mix, I think it is missing some dynamic range and frequency range. For example, the bass is shy in the 50-80db range. He mids are very strong. Was this a headphone mix? If not, I would compare to popular songs and see how you match up. 
    It doesn't matter since this is not a commercial release but we all try to give our constructive feedback to help if we can right?
    I love the attitude the most on this song.  Good job.
     

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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/28 00:58:45 (permalink)
    Just heard the new mix - it keeps getting better! Got it cranked on the P11's right now and singing along. Makes me feel like throwing on some ZZ Top now...


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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/28 21:47:46 (permalink)
    Cool tune !  I listened to both versions and you definitely improved it. I agree with Rimshot that some dynamic range would really bring it up a level ! Really fun to listen to!

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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/29 01:00:07 (permalink)
    I'll bet you love your new toys.  All sounds good but on the really low notes the bass at first sounded strange and then I got into it.  Dude, that's a different song!  We are about to post a "different " song too.  I hope ours comes out as good as yours.  I think your song will take a few listens till i appreciate all of it.  That is usually a good thing because I couldn't absorb it all at once.  That could be age.  Ha!!   long story short, I really like it.

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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/29 12:05:01 (permalink)
    Excellent work ;-)
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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/03/30 20:17:44 (permalink)
    Lynn, that is just a trip - love it - very imaginative - new guitar sounds great. I love my Paul Reed Smith.

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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/04/01 14:13:22 (permalink)
    You know when you listen to this song and "Devils in my House" and the next song, "Flying..." you really got a cool sound going. They flow nicely. Well done!

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    Re: New song - Let It Fly 2015/04/01 16:09:29 (permalink)
    Hello, again, everyone.  Last week as I was getting ready to work on this song, my E drive died, which is where I store my songs.  So, I had to install a new drive and do a restore operation, and that was successful.  Unfortunately, during the process, I inadvertently bent some of those tiny pins on the data cable, so I had to take the computer into the shop to replace the cable.  I just got it back today, so I'm behind on my work and responses to you all.  I found out that my Samsung tablet won't let me post on this site, therefor, I'm late to respond to all of your wonderful posts.
     
    John, thanks for the kind words, and I hope you are doing well.
     
    Venus (Dena), I am enjoying Platinum and the guitar immensely.
     
    Tony, I like your idea of the bass drum playing quarter notes on the verse, and I'll give it a try on the next pass.  The bass drum and guitar are still fighting for space, and that will be my main focus.  BTW, I normally go for a standard Fender bass sound, but this time I tried to get fancy and get some real bottom it the part.  I'll pay attention to the vocal, as well.  Thanks for your contribution.
     
    James, sorry about the ear infection, but thanks for the comparison to ZZ Top and Huey Lewis.
     
    Dave, thanks again for taking another listen.  I hope not to let you down.
     
    Greg, I'm going to take your suggestion.  Thanks for your input.
     
    Jimmy, I hear what you're saying, and I will deal with those issues.  Thanks for your time.
     
    Monty, thanks for your input, and as I stated above, I will deal with this.
     
    John, I appreciate that you listened to several of my songs and your kind words.  I'm always grateful for any inspiration that comes my way.
      
    Warren, you are too kind.  This is very different for me, too, and I am apparently not used to mixing this genre.  Best of luck to you and your new creations.
     
    B36B, it's good to hear from you again.  Hope you're doing well!  Thanks for your response.
     
    Mark, it's always good to hear from you.  Thanks for your kind words.
     
    Now....it's time to get back to work!
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    post edited by Lynn - 2015/04/01 19:29:44

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