A short composition

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2015/04/05 22:43:26 (permalink)

A short composition

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Here's the second in my suite of spy-themed tunes. I meant to make one long piece but I guess it shook out more like this. I like this one better! Comments and criticism well-received!
(hear the first here)

 
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    Re: A short composition 2015/04/06 20:45:40 (permalink)
    anything?

     
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    Re: A short composition 2015/04/07 01:11:44 (permalink)
    Full marks for creativity! Love the genre. 
     
    Here's three observations. 1) the cymbal/hi hat in the first 30 seconds seemed a little extra sizzly to me, you might consider bringing it down a bit in the mix, or re-eq'ing some top end off.
     
    2) Overall, the horns were nice, but they overwhelm the piano to a large degree. I'd back the horns off a bit, and in particular, you have one that is farting, I think it might be a bari sax or a low trombone? I'm a piano player so that's my disclaimer.
     
    3) I thought the major chord ending didn't fit the darker, noir-ish tone of the rest of the piece. 
     
    I did enjoy it and I look forward to where this one goes - waaay coooool of you to write in this vein!
     
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    Re: A short composition 2015/04/07 01:18:47 (permalink)
    Nice hooks and interesting use of pitch slides (pitch bend / glissando)  
     
    Minor Criticisms: Mix is a bit lop-sided (Drums).  In some parts the very low brass notes have a little too much spit, the spit can be tamed in various ways such as, filter cut.  Crescendos (brass) is nice but could be a little more dynamic (dramatic), and at other times the brass is a bit low in the mix.  Piano at times i.e. earlier in the piece, is a little too far back in the mix.  Arrangement seems somewhat unfinished... i.e. what works exceptionally well with brass is a 'string ensemble' for subtle changes and build ups, or more dramatic if you wish. 
     
     
     
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    Re: A short composition 2015/04/07 08:19:35 (permalink)
    Realistic brass sounds...aside from the minor artistic differences. I like it!

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    Re: A short composition 2015/04/07 17:00:58 (permalink)
    Thanks a lot for the comments, guys! This is my second attempt at an energetic brass-powered piece like this and I think I'll keep writing things with similar instrumentation.
     
    Tom, I'll keep your comments in mind for a future mix of this track. Humurously enough, the 4/4 at the end of the piece made me only think "Japanese Anime" theme song sound, and I felt that super-high trumpet made it work, but at the same time I arranged this in only about 2 hours so i didn't work everything out as perfectly as I could have/would have!
     
    SongCraft, you're definitely right. I originally intended to write in a string section but I had trouble figuring out how to fit it in well. I'll have to be more aware of my arrangement choices as I go forward.
     
    Starise, thanks for the comments here and there! All of this is actually like-recorded brass, albeit treated a bit to sound as good as a 2-hr mix will let it sound.
    Thanks a lot for listening, guys! More soon :)
     

     
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    Re: A short composition 2015/04/09 12:03:29 (permalink)
    All comments above are well given I thought it had good sound overall, what did you use for the brass?
     
    Thanks for sharing.

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    Re: A short composition 2015/04/09 12:10:04 (permalink)
    Thanks for listening, John! I actually record all of my brass (except french horn). I prefer augmenting samples/synths with live instruments because I think of myself as more of a mix engineer rather than a composer/arranger; I like to hear finished products!

     
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    Re: A short composition 2015/04/09 12:35:44 (permalink)
    Cool stuff... good horn riffs.  Would like to have heard a bit more of the piano.
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    Re: A short composition 2015/04/10 12:57:40 (permalink)
    Dave, I like your eclectic style and arrangements.  As this was so short, I was left with wanting more.  I agree with others that you could tweak the mix a bit, but you have something good to work with.  BTW, I used to play in a brass band, so I like your brassy arrangements.

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    Re: A short composition 2015/04/10 16:08:49 (permalink)
    Hi phil, thanks for the comment. I do agree with you- I sort of put this mix tougher in too short a length of time with no reference. I'll have to start using refs!
     
    Lynn, I'll probably go ahead and revisit this mix so that the overall balance is a bit better, more 'stage-like'; I think that'd help. Thanks! What instrument(s) did you play? Brass bands have always been a cool thing to me and I'm hoping to become something of an all-around brass player. Just gotta find a double horn :)

     
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    Re: A short composition 2015/04/11 12:44:30 (permalink)
    I played coronet for five years before I took up guitar.

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    Re: A short composition 2015/04/11 13:22:49 (permalink)
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    Thanks for listening, John! I actually record all of my brass (except french horn). I prefer augmenting samples/synths with live instruments because I think of myself as more of a mix engineer rather than a composer/arranger; I like to hear finished products!


    That explains why they sounded good.

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