yorolpal
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What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
After my friends harrowing adventure with RansomWare I'm looking into getting additional protection for my box. I already use Microsoft Security Essentials. Do I need an additional Malware prevention tool? And if so, will it replace SE or run along side it? Thanks for your info.
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
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I use Malwarebytes and find it to be great at rooting out spyware. I paid for the upgrade to PRo and that added real time protection where you don't have to run it manually. It works well and is about as transparent as MSE. The free version is just as good but must be run manually. Highly recommended Ol' Pal.
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
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ampfixer
I use Malwarebytes and find it to be great at rooting out spyware. I paid for the upgrade to PRo and that added real time protection where you don't have to run it manually. It works well and is about as transparent as MSE. The free version is just as good but must be run manually. Highly recommended Ol' Pal.
This^^^ +100 Malwarebytes is excellent!! EDIT: I've actually been using Webroot's SecurityAnywhere and it's been doing a fantastic job on 3 PC's for the past year (the paid subcription is around $20 per year). When I was only using free anti-virus/malware software, it was MSE and Malwarebytes.
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
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ampfixer
I use Malwarebytes and find it to be great at rooting out spyware. I paid for the upgrade to PRo and that added real time protection where you don't have to run it manually. It works well and is about as transparent as MSE. The free version is just as good but must be run manually. Highly recommended Ol' Pal.
+1. I run it alongside AVG, so far, so good.
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
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I use Malwarebtyes and SpyBot - Both have been very useful. Those along with either Avast or AVG.
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
2015/04/14 18:15:39
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yorolpal
Do I need an additional Malware prevention tool? And if so, will it replace SE or run along side it?
Hi. I recommend you try Sandboxie. It works with SE too. You can use it for free or you can buy it to get rid of the quick nag screen. I use it for free. As the name implies it is an easy to use sandbox program which is designed to keep you safe. Take a look at it in the www.sandboxie.com web site. There is a little how it works -presentation to show you the simple but effective principle behind it. In short it is a program that you can use with your browser or almost any other app that you use and it prevents bad things from happening to your system or data. In the web site there are guides and a forum. There are also vids on the Youtube about it including tests where it decimates malware attacks. Or you could try some of the fully OS sandboxing programs which are probably even safer but are bit more work I believe. I also use noscript and flash blocking plugins for the Firefox and Opera browsers. EMET is also supposed to be useful against some malware attacks.
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
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☄ Helpfulby dubdisciple 2015/04/15 01:33:55
Actually, it's you!
There is no software that can prevent malware if one constantly clicks on the same sucker stuff over and over. I have made a living from cleaning machines since 93 and they all have every flavor of this and that to "prevent" bites in the shark tank that is the internet.
It's always the same two or three people in any office and walk-ins are becoming what we call frequent flyers. For those the only remedy is disconnect. Other that that, quit having "fun" on the net. It's no "fun" anymore.
This doesn't sound "cool" but it is the absolute truth man.
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yorolpal
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
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Well...most all of my time online is spent on three basic sites...CNN, this forum and Youtube. The rest is downloading updates and new purchases from, hopefully, trusted sites. That said, I know nowhere is safe on the interwebz...hence my OP questions. I wish I could have fun on the net. But other than occasionally here, it depresses the dog doo outta me.
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
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I don't know where people get searchconduit, super speedy pc pro and all the others but with from what I gather from servicing this small section of America is that they respond to the internet telling them something about them or their pc is inadequate for the most part. Update your (OS) drivers [x] Get the new video converter [x] Your PC may be infected [x] Stop male pattern baldness [x] Most people don't know what these things are anyway, but they'll click 'em. Then there is cross site scripting. <Roll eyes> The thing is, is that many people weren't and aren't ready for computers. They have then for the internet and without it the machines would go back to just the nerds. They don't consider things like backing up your stuff for example. And they don't understand that this is the WORLD WIDE web and right next to us on the internet are people a lot smarter and driven than most who wish to extract money from whoever they can make believe. Read the OWASP top 10. https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Top_10_2013-Top_10
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
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☄ Helpfulby Shambler 2015/04/15 15:57:51
Mine isn't free, but I've had Eset for a few years now and haven't had any issues.
Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
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Another for Malwarebytes. I only download the most recent version every now and again, instal and run it to check for malware, then uninstall till the next time I want to do a scan.
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
2015/04/15 07:00:43
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+1 MalwareBytes - I just used it literally yesterday to finish getting crap ware off my son's net book.
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
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☄ Helpfulby robert_e_bone 2015/04/15 09:26:34
Install Adblock Plus in your browser and most of the ads that lead to malware sites will disappear.
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
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Hi,
Been using F-Secure on all my computers for 8 years now, and only had an issue once on a computer that was not clean to start with and I got one of those that goofed around with the registry real bad and even fudged the bios ... since then I make sure the order is correct on each computer .. windows, f-secure, then the windows updates, and then whatever ... but one thing that I recommend is that the "browsing" computer not be the music computer, and in my case, also the writing computer, to prevent further issues.
I know some of us can't afford it, but my 4 computers ... is not enough! 2 of those also do regular backups of the folders where my work is.
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2015/04/15 13:16:47
bitman
Actually, it's you!
There is no software that can prevent malware if one constantly clicks on the same sucker stuff over and over. I have made a living from cleaning machines since 93 and they all have every flavor of this and that to "prevent" bites in the shark tank that is the internet.
It's always the same two or three people in any office and walk-ins are becoming what we call frequent flyers. For those the only remedy is disconnect. Other that that, quit having "fun" on the net. It's no "fun" anymore.
This doesn't sound "cool" but it is the absolute truth man.
^^^^^ This Most of the really bad stuff is from people blindly opening attachments or popups you get while surfing telling you it detected this or that needs to be upgraded so click on "I'm just an updater not a trojan.exe". Most of the big corporate hacks started with someone clicking on an executable and letting them behind the corporate firewall. I suppose you could hire a bouncer to look over your shoulder and smack you if you try to do something like this. Basic rules: 1. Never open an attachment from anyone you don't know or aren't 100% sure they are who they say they are. Real companies don't send you attachments out of the blue. They also don't send you to insecure sites to deal with login problems and whatnot. If you get an email that there's something wrong with your account, don't click on anything; instead go to the site directly on your own where you will likely find that there is no problem. 2. If a friend sends you an email with a "funny" or "You must see this!" attachment, don't bother. Friends who know anything about security don't send friends unnecessary attachments. And it isn't safe because a friend sent it - it may have been sent by a compromised machine or your friend doesn't know they've been hacked yet. 3. Never click on popups. Set your browser to prevent popups and if you're on a legit site that actually requires one you will get a message from your browser to allow it. If you get a popup while surfing, close it with Ctrl-W or the tab bar, not by clicking on the popup itself. Real companies don't need third part sites to keep you up to date. It's ridiculously easier for hackers to use human engineering to entice people into allowing them in than it is to spend huge amounts of time exploiting holes over many layers of security that will only work on a percentage of machines and be closed fairly quickly as soon as they are discovered.
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
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Sorry folks. I mistakenly wrote that I use flash blockers when I meant that I use adblocking plugins in the Firefox and Opera browsers. I believe they are important.
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
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Since I no longer have a lot of PC's up and working, I've started a set up where I've got a base OS on an SSD, all data on a separate hard drive and virtual machines (VM's) for whatever I'm working on. Currently that means a "normal" working PC (Microsoft Office, PhotoShop, email, etc.), a programming machine (Visual Studio 2013, MS SQL, Eclipse, etc.), and an "internet whore" VM. Eventually I may get my DAW over too, but it's still happy on an old dual 1.3ghz server box (cutting edge vintage 2001 I think - *Sigh...*). This way, if I do get something from the web that I don't want, I simply delete that VM and restore my "golden copy."
Lack of funds for an extra hard drive is slowing this down. My main 3TB drive is the one that got corrupted late last year - unfortunately, thousands of files were corrupted before I even knew there was an issue so my backups also had corrupted files on them...
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
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Another vote for ESET, I also use SuperAntiSpyWare and haven't had anything get through for years.
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
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Be careful where you step, and watch what ya eat,
Sleep with a knife and you got it beat !
For me the best thing (I think) has been W7 or W8. XP was vulnerable. I use Norton 360 (I get it free with Comcast internet) on my laptop and between it and W7 64, I have not had a problem. With XP I was removing some sort of malware pretty regularly, I got pretty good at it too. I run CCleaner occasionally and I have Malwarebytes Free but I don't run it in the background, just a scan now and then but it never finds anything bad. I also keep Panicware popup blocker running all the time (it is free too). I think it does a better job that the Windows popup blocker. If I'm not "careful where I step" I get little notifications from Norton that it blocked this or that. It has served me well.
I do think that the biggest help has been the improved OS.
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Re: What's the best Malware prevention package out there...
2015/04/16 13:51:50
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bitman
Actually, it's you!
There is no software that can prevent malware if one constantly clicks on the same sucker stuff over and over. I have made a living from cleaning machines since 93 and they all have every flavor of this and that to "prevent" bites in the shark tank that is the internet.
It's always the same two or three people in any office and walk-ins are becoming what we call frequent flyers. For those the only remedy is disconnect. Other that that, quit having "fun" on the net. It's no "fun" anymore.
This doesn't sound "cool" but it is the absolute truth man.
^^^^^
This
Most of the really bad stuff is from people blindly opening attachments or popups you get while surfing telling you it detected this or that needs to be upgraded so click on "I'm just an updater not a trojan.exe". Most of the big corporate hacks started with someone clicking on an executable and letting them behind the corporate firewall.
I suppose you could hire a bouncer to look over your shoulder and smack you if you try to do something like this.
Basic rules:
1. Never open an attachment from anyone you don't know or aren't 100% sure they are who they say they are. Real companies don't send you attachments out of the blue. They also don't send you to insecure sites to deal with login problems and whatnot. If you get an email that there's something wrong with your account, don't click on anything; instead go to the site directly on your own where you will likely find that there is no problem.
2. If a friend sends you an email with a "funny" or "You must see this!" attachment, don't bother. Friends who know anything about security don't send friends unnecessary attachments. And it isn't safe because a friend sent it - it may have been sent by a compromised machine or your friend doesn't know they've been hacked yet.
3. Never click on popups. Set your browser to prevent popups and if you're on a legit site that actually requires one you will get a message from your browser to allow it. If you get a popup while surfing, close it with Ctrl-W or the tab bar, not by clicking on the popup itself. Real companies don't need third part sites to keep you up to date.
It's ridiculously easier for hackers to use human engineering to entice people into allowing them in than it is to spend huge amounts of time exploiting holes over many layers of security that will only work on a percentage of machines and be closed fairly quickly as soon as they are discovered.
Totally agree!! If a friend sends you a picture, make sure the friend knows that they sent it and that they meant to send it and that it isn't something they got offline before you open it. Be careful about Facebook too. Phishing emails are slick. They make a page that looks just like AMEX, your bank, or the IRS. The IRS will NEVER contact you by email. Don't open ANY email and click on ANYTHING involving ANYTHING. Call the company to see if they actually sent you an email but I know for a fact that the IRS never contacts via email. No credit card company is going to send you an email asking you to change your login. I never click on anything unless I am downloading something and I know for sure where I am downloading from, like Cakewalk. Then Norton scans the download before anything is processed. Bitman is right on, be sure you are sure that you know who you are dealing with and you are sure about what you are opening. If a friend sends anything other than a picture that they took, which don't happen very often.. it usually comes in a phone message, then to the trash it goes. If it is something financial, they can call me or I will call them. Same with the state and anything to do with my business, have a phone for that stuff.
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