LJB
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Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
Hi guys, is this a bug, a design decision or pilot error? My plugins always pop up top left on my screen - even if I move them to a more convenient place. Next time I open them, there they are again, top left. Slows me down a bit :O)
Anyone have any idears here?
Thanks so much!
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/06 07:45:02
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Are you saving the project into a locked screenset?
Mine will stay where I put them provided either the screenset is unlocked or they are positioned where you want prior to locking/saving
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/06 07:56:35
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I'm pretty sure that plugs used to open where you closed them ... now each one opens where the last one was closed - all on top of each other (screenset unlocked)
This is independent of "Recycle plugin window" settings.
Strange thing is that going back to X3 shows same behaviour ... was there an update to common component or am I just losing it ????
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/11 04:00:58
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Bristol_Jonesey
Are you saving the project into a locked screenset?
Mine will stay where I put them provided either the screenset is unlocked or they are positioned where you want prior to locking/saving
Colin (or anyone else listening), Could you pls check again / explain further if you indeed have different behaviour ... my plugins all open where the last one was closed i.e. all on top of each other Didn't each instance of the plugin remember its position and open again in the same place (after being moved and closed)??? If I'm mistaken, this would definitely be an important feature request ...
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/11 04:30:29
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Mine seem to open where I left them, just tried it, opened a few, moved them to certain places, closed them and reopened them and they we all in the same place they were when I closed them
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/11 11:23:47
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Mine seem to open where I left them, just tried it, opened a few, moved them to certain places, closed them and reopened them and they we all in the same place they were when I closed them
that's funny because I remember mine doing likewise and now they don't ... are you sure each one remembers its position ... as on: open Plug A, open Plug B, open Plug C, move A, move B, move C, close A, close B, close C ... now A opens where A was, and B where B was ... ??? because mine all open where C was as this is the last one I closed ...
post edited by FreeFlyBertl - 2015/04/12 04:50:57
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/11 18:09:25
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Yes, I don't usually really pay much attention to it, not consciously, on autopilot, but I tried it last night after reading this thread, and that was the behavior
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/11 19:10:10
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My plugs Do NOT reopen where I left them. Instead they all open where the last one was closed and my screensets are unlocked
Could different results be due to what version of Splat ppl are using?
I'm still on Braintree until control bar is fixed.
This is becoming a right royal pain in the...
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/11 19:13:09
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I checked on Sonar Platinum 64 bit, Cambridge release and I found the same behaviour as FreeFlyBerti. They all open on top of each other where the last one was when it was closed. I wish it were the same as what jih64 reported. Not sure what is the expected behaviour.
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/11 19:36:20
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Anyone still on Braintree getting the same results as I am?
I have empirical evidence this is true... (Bender told me!) Cakewalk by BandLab, Splat and other DAW's PC = Win 10 64 Bit, i7 3770, 16Gb RAM, 256GB Samsung 2.5’ 840 PRO SATA6GB/s SSD 1, and 2 x 2Tb Internal, Monitors = 2 24” Samsung SA450 and 1 20” Dele Edirol = Octa-Capture-UA1010, Quad-Capture-UA55, PCR-500, Berringer 2 x FBC 1010 Alesis Control Pad KRK monitors
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/12 04:49:09
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BENT
Anyone still on Braintree getting the same results as I am?
I get it on Braintree, Cambridge and X3 ...
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/12 06:16:56
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Yep, on Platinum, wherever you the plugin was that you last closed, is where the next plugin will open. Looks like a dumb side-effect of the window 'recycling' that was added recently, which presumably uses the location of the last closed plugin so that it knows where to put the new one.
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/12 06:28:47
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Kylotan
Yep, on Platinum, wherever you the plugin was that you last closed, is where the next plugin will open. Looks like a dumb side-effect of the window 'recycling' that was added recently, which presumably uses the location of the last closed plugin so that it knows where to put the new one.
That was also my impression ... a side effect from the recycling ... strangely it also affected X3 somehow (common component?) ... Anyway, time to report as a problem it is then, isn't it???
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/14 01:34:38
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problem report to fix this ... or feature request to improve this?
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/14 02:02:43
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/15 01:37:16
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Maybe it's best if moderators simply move this thread to feature requests and slightly adjust the title???
Otherwise the whole discussion starts over ...
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/17 15:26:06
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I am curious how this affects X3 as well. All plugins opened in X3 appear where the last one was closed.
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/18 04:16:03
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So this is nothing that came with Platinum, just tried X3 on a machine that I retired and never upgraded to Platinum: identical behaviour i.e. all plugins in X3 open where the last one was closed.
Feature request indeed.
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/18 05:44:03
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I am glad you confirmed that, since as I was playing with X3 I could not remember "for sure" where they opened! I figured it would be better to bump the thread than make that assumption. I typically open, move, do my thing, close... so reviewing this thread was the first time I think I have ever "just opened" three at once (and they are stacked when doing that). Edit: From a parent/child perspective it makes sense for this behavior, since Windows will open a new window based on the last child creation (typically tiled format). Remembering a particular plugin once released (and worse by plugin location - say three of the same plugin, but on different tracks) may be a bit more difficult than initially meets the eye. Once closed/released, that data is "gone" unless specifically stored "somewhere."
post edited by mettelus - 2015/04/18 05:53:37
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/18 14:17:07
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mettelus
I am glad you confirmed that, since as I was playing with X3 I could not remember "for sure" where they opened! I figured it would be better to bump the thread than make that assumption.
It's probably always been like that but once see them all on top of each other, you seem to be smelling the fish and off you go with "hey, that can't be right" ... I would have bet that it was not like that before simply because I'm so used to programs and dialog windows remembering their location these days that if it's not the case I don't believe it ... mettelus
Edit: From a parent/child perspective it makes sense for this behavior, since Windows will open a new window based on the last child creation (typically tiled format). Remembering a particular plugin once released (and worse by plugin location - say three of the same plugin, but on different tracks) may be a bit more difficult than initially meets the eye. Once closed/released, that data is "gone" unless specifically stored "somewhere."
Yeah, this is native windows behaviour but as I said many applications have that save/recall of dialog window positions build in these days ... it's after all just two coordinates to store ... and if coded in the right base class it applies to all windows ...
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/18 14:41:14
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LJB
Hi guys, is this a bug, a design decision or pilot error? My plugins always pop up top left on my screen - even if I move them to a more convenient place. Next time I open them, there they are again, top left. Slows me down a bit :O)
Anyone have any idears here?
Thanks so much!
Ludwig
So I tried a bunch of plugins and all VST3 x64 and VST2 x64 plugins remembered where you placed them. The VST2 32 bit plugins did not and returned to the upper left corner of the screen when re-opened.
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/18 17:28:00
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That's likely because they are technically instances of the same Bitbridge plugin.
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Re: Plugins don't remember where I move them to on the screen..
2015/04/19 18:27:10
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Probably related to this: if you minimize a series of windows, they line up on the bottom of your screen in the order you minimized them (good thing). HOWEVER if you change screensets, then return to the first screenset, the line of minimized windows is NOT in the order you minimized them (bad thing). Looks like they are ordered by the original track creation order, regardless if you moved tracks around in track view to suit your project.
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