Susan G
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Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
I'm starting to think not. When 2015 was released in January, CW did say the plan was to release a demo sooner after the initial release than they had with previous versions. It's four months later, and still no word about a demo from CW, even though several people on these forums have asked about it.
Is CW just assuming that if people want to take it for a test run, they should be willing to pay a month's membership fee?
Maybe I'm just being cynical, but why say you're going to release a demo earlier than usual and then go silent about it for months?
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/22 03:17:05
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Since it reverts to "Demo Mode" anyway, it doesn't make sense that everyone cannot simply download it now.
iZotope let's you demo VERY expensive software for free, and works for 10 days... No muss, no fuss... And they must get good sales from it.
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Susan G
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/22 03:24:00
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Since it reverts to "Demo Mode" anyway, it doesn't make sense that everyone cannot simply download it now.
iZotope let's you demo VERY expensive software for free, and works for 10 days... No muss, no fuss... And they must get good sales from it.
Hi Michael- I agree. I don't understand why they don't just provide demo downloads for the current version, or why they didn't for even earlier versions, since it reverts, as you say. I guess they have their reasons...? Thanks- -Susan
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/22 03:42:02
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Hi Susan, based on reading about the simple manual for the new Rapture Pro it seems a concern for piracy... Something that requires serious attention in an appropriate manner. There are already several methods in use much more efficient that do not affect legitimate sales.
Ironically, someone can load their SONAR on a friend's computer, yet the concern for this seems nonexistent. If a company wishes to attack piracy, then attack piracy, not customers. Criminals will exploit every loophole you allow.
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/22 03:58:39
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Which release do they make the demo for? The current one? That's a moving target every month as features are added.
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/22 04:26:56
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Aren't most of the new added features not part of the demo. I thought the demo was just a base version, lower than the Artist version. Though it would contain up to date fixes for the parts it does contain. Frion the CCC this would be just the header download.
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/22 04:46:31
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It would seem to make sense to just make the current Artist version available for free download, reverting to demo mode at the end of some period of time. Presonus seems to do this in a particularly cool way - they have a basic free version of Studio One, which you can download and use to your heart's content, but you can start a 30-day demo of the full Professional version at any time, which will revert back to free mode if they haven't convinced you by then - "start free, then go pro"...
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/22 05:10:09
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is it not already demo for a few bucks per month for a full version?...man a joint cost more, cigs cost more....this is a good deal...once they get it working with all the other things changing in OS and devices...let em focus on making the full version great...put in some dosh man!...and then troubleshoot with us!
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/22 05:15:01
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Which release do they make the demo for? The current one? That's a moving target every month as features are added.
As the reverting to demo mode exists in the core program (all iterations), I am not sure this is overly relevant. Seeing as you had yours revert to demo mode, did you have to reinstall Braintree to get it back? As it stands today, if someone pays X dollars for a month, they can download (the current revision) and it reverts to demo mode. I cannot think of a single instance of potential customers being charged to demo software.
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/22 05:46:18
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I won't be upgrading until I can trial the software first. No demo no sale. No big deal, plenty of other software to spend my upgrade budget on 
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/22 05:52:22
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I didn't actually do anything. The fix came from Cakewalk somehow. I guess through CCC that registered the program correctly.
I get the point about demo mode. It would
Be great if it was that easy but I've heard what Andrew and Noel said about having to create adenosine wasn't as easy as we think and there was quite a bit of work involved. I'm no programmer so haven't a clue really.
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/22 06:05:46
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Be great if it was that easy but I've heard what Andrew and Noel said about having to create adenosine wasn't as easy as we think and there was quite a bit of work involved. I'm no programmer so haven't a clue really.
# Andrew and Noel created Adenosine Triphosphate? You're right, that can't have been easy... 
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/22 08:30:55
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I can think of several challenges; moving target, new bugs that they rightfully prefer not to demo, piracy ...
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Susan G
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/23 02:05:40
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I can see the reasons for not having a demo, but what I don't get is why Cakewalk made a point of saying they hoped they would release a demo earlier than with previous versions and then go totally silent on it. In this post, they said they hoped to release it on day 1. -Susan
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/23 08:40:36
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mudgel
Be great if it was that easy but I've heard what Andrew and Noel said about having to create adenosine wasn't as easy as we think and there was quite a bit of work involved. I'm no programmer so haven't a clue really.
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Andrew and Noel created Adenosine Triphosphate? You're right, that can't have been easy...
There's obviously a mad scientist at Cakewalk. Haha Predictive text has gone mad and I didn't check. I think from the context it should read: .......having to create 'a demo' wasn't as.............. I haven't edited the original error as it would make all subsequent quotes look even sillier.
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/23 09:05:45
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As it stands today, if someone pays X dollars for a month, they can download (the current revision) and it reverts to demo mode. I cannot think of a single instance of potential customers being charged to demo software.
You could try Cubase or ProTools - they both demand a dongle to demo. That's $20-$30 right there, if you don't already have them. You can run Cubase Elements trial though - without any dongle. My thinking is - if you're not ready to spend $10 to run for a month, you are not that interested anyway. And after that it's reverting to demo mode - don't know for how long, if restricted at all - but you can demo all you want even after that, in a similar fashion as all demos do(except Reaper then, that never expires). I think the demo debate has lost all proportions. Good that Cakewalk put all efforts to provide updates on a regular basis. Not spend rediculous amount of effort on making all shipped plugins revert and similar things. No matter what they do - they will not please everybody...
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/23 10:07:34
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As said it is so frygn cheap to get your hands on now that the ? customers who need a demo are not worth the effort.
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/23 11:45:47
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If you don't release it as a Demo version, it can't revert to the Demo version. At the moment it must revert to something else.
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/23 12:27:13
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☄ Helpfulby chilldanny 2015/04/24 06:21:53
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As said it is so frygn cheap to get your hands on now that the ? customers who need a demo are not worth the effort.
some of us like to look before we leap (again)
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Re: Will there be a SONAR 2015 demo?
2015/04/24 06:17:51
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..customers who need a demo are not worth the effort.
I'm hopeful that Cakewalk disagree with you
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