Westside Steve Simmons
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Spyware adware malware
Hey what do you guys suggest for any or all of these software protection programs? Preferably free and preferably something that doesn't clog up the works? Windows Defender cool? How about McAfee that pesters me to run a scan every time I turn on the computer? WSS
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/22 17:39:10
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If you are running Windows 8 and do not run an administrator account or turn off user account control, Windows Defender is probably a reasonable choice. If you are using Windows 7 Vista or XP then you will not get virus coverage unless you use Microsoft Security Essentials. MalwareBytes is less tolerant of the less dangerous forms of malware (adware, tracking cookies etc.) than most antivirus software, but the free version does not automatically scan files when they are downloaded or accessed.
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Sycraft
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/22 19:35:43
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For free, Windows Defender (included in Windows 8, called Microsoft Security Essentials and available for download for Windows 7) is probably the best. Reasonably low resource usage, about 90% catch rate. It works ok. Personally, I recommend ESET NOD32. It is not free, but it very good. Very fast, very stable, and high catch rate, more like 98-99%. Plus you can configure the scanning engine to exclude certain file types (so like I exclude NKI, NKM, WAV, FLAC, BFDLAC, and so on, all the audio stuff) to keep usage down on intensive stuff.
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SF_Green
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/22 21:07:29
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Thanks sycraft. I will be checking that out. Haven't heard of ESET before, but am getting tired of various aspects of Avast.
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/22 21:20:56
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As I've said many times before here: Windows Defender / Security Essentials is rubbish. It has a very low detection rate which makes it mostly useless. Avira or Avast are probably the two best free options out there. Malwarebytes is great for what it does though and I recommend keeping that on hand.
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/23 04:53:43
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The best defense IMO is to run MSE/Defender and STAY AWAY FROM pRon SITES!!
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/23 05:48:03
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I can highly recommend ESET also as others with their fancy graphics and needless checks just slow your system down. Avira Internet Security is pretty good too although if you need proper isolation I would say Installing linux in a virtual box environment will deter the need for it all together.
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/23 07:03:50
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I use the Microsoft Defender plus a paid version of Malwarebytes. I have not had any problems but I'm limited on sites I visit and do not click on links in any e-mail. This combination does not cause any DPC Latency issues and does not conflict with Sonar. Everyone zaps Microsoft but its probably the most widely used. I do some PC support and I've recommended the Microsoft and Malwarebytes to all my clients, and all except one are using them and not having any security issues.
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kakku
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/23 14:15:58
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I am content with the free Comodo Internet Security Suite. It has an antivirus, sandbox, firewall and also a good hips thingy which is often better than an antivirus app. You only have to install those things you want from those. I also use Sandboxie, which is great I believe. Some people don't even use an antivirus app when they have Sandboxie.
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slartabartfast
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/23 18:38:02
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A sandbox will protect the host system from most malware. But if you only run programs within the sandbox, then the sandbox is in effect the system, and if it becomes infected, you will need to clean it up or re-install everything in the virtual space. If you are browsing in a sandbox (browsers like Internet Explorer and Chrome already run inside a sandbox of sorts) and download and install a program on the host system (either deliberately or inadvertently) then a virus payload has access to the host system. So an antivirus program is still pretty much a requirement for safety for almost all users.
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kakku
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/24 01:58:30
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David, I think you are right. This is how I do things: I surf with my browsers sandboxied and when I finish I close the browsers and sandboxie deletes all the crap that the browsers have gathered. Perhaps people who only use Sandboxie and a firewall don't download stuff from the internet. I would still advise (although I am not a pro in this IT field either ) people to use AV too.
post edited by kakku - 2015/04/24 06:28:39
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kakku
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/24 07:29:26
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I noticed I did not say a word about Comodo's bad side. Comodo security system is a good thing if the user knows how to configure it so it does not give you constant trouble by asking questions and locking up new apps. I am not a master in IT but I was able to configure Comodo in a reasonably troublefree state although I just in case usually put the hips and sandbox off when I install stuff. The key in my opinion is to put Comodo in Clean pc mode which is relatively trouble free.I think it is worth the minor hassle because it gives me a safer Windows 7 system.
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kakku
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/24 07:41:57
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I tried free Avast and Avira. Both were bad experiences. Avira was bad because it does not have email protection and Avast messed Firefox up and force fed Chrome. I chose Comodo's AV because of these problems
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/24 10:54:48
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If you want to go as far as something that covers every aspect, Kaspersky is hands down the best protection you will get. The problem I had with it is that it's resource intrusive. I could see using it for something like a medical computer where you were storing files but for a studio computer, that much security is a mistake because what you gain in scanning features, you lose in freed resources.
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/24 12:41:51
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Since we're having a buffet in here, I'll recommend the one I've been using for the past 2 years: Webroots SecureAnywhere. It's not free, but works really well for the small footprint (.70 MB) it leaves on your machine.
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/27 15:43:39
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Sycraft For free, Windows Defender (included in Windows 8, called Microsoft Security Essentials and available for download for Windows 7) is probably the best. Reasonably low resource usage, about 90% catch rate. It works ok. Personally, I recommend ESET NOD32. It is not free, but it very good. Very fast, very stable, and high catch rate, more like 98-99%. Plus you can configure the scanning engine to exclude certain file types (so like I exclude NKI, NKM, WAV, FLAC, BFDLAC, and so on, all the audio stuff) to keep usage down on intensive stuff.
I got NOD32 and I'm liking it so far. Especially like the exclude all audio related files, which I did. Nice and unobtrusive, with a smaller footprint. Thanks for the recommendation.
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Sycraft
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/27 19:55:46
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SF_Green I got NOD32 and I'm liking it so far. Especially like the exclude all audio related files, which I did. Nice and unobtrusive, with a smaller footprint. Thanks for the recommendation.
No problem. It is an exceedingly good product in my experience and has a history of being good. Also haven't had any issues with it (Bitdefender has been known to cause systems to crash in some cases). Also note that NOD32 is smart and does hashing so if you scan your disk, it'll calculate the has of all the files and save that. Then on subsequent access, if the hash hasn't changed, it doesn't do a full scan on that file since it has already done it.
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Westside Steve Simmons
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/29 19:04:58
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thanks everybody for the input. I do have the Windows Defender up with 8.1 and will probably get Malwarebytes. PS I don't download anything but music software related stuff on my recording PC. ;)
WSS
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/04/30 05:46:53
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Microsoft's software is a bit below par though in detection and clear-up rates so I wouldn't recommend them per se. Advertisements can be a nuisance and especially intrusive pop-up and pop-unders when you're trying to do something else. I've used Eset internet security in the past and it has saved my donkey a few times.
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/05/06 12:39:06
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I happen to like Avast's free antivirus software, and MalwareBytes. They both work well enough for me, and I have installed them on well over 100 computers I have built for folks over the past 3 years. Backups and common sense go a long way towards reducing the pain/agony for when something DOES go wrong. There MUST be a level of discipline for any security/backup/recovery process plan to work properly. Bob Bone
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kakku
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/05/06 12:50:31
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robert_e_bone I happen to like Avast's free antivirus software, and MalwareBytes. They both work well enough for me, and I have installed them on well over 100 computers I have built for folks over the past 3 years.
Do you know if Avast has changed it's installing ways? I tried Avast about 3 weeks ago and I sure did not like the way the install tried to force me into installing Chrome and also IIRC made something search engine stuff and Avast changed my Firefox experience too.
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Re: Spyware adware malware
2015/05/06 12:54:30
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@Robert: I mean the free version's install ways.
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