First song - feedback and tips appriciated

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First song - feedback and tips appriciated

Hello all... 
 
First post, first song. I'm quite new to making music with a DAW (about a year) and only have experience with Sonar X3, and lately Sonar Platinum. 
 
Watched tons of tutorials, and read all I can find on "tips & tricks" for using the DAW, mixing and mastering. It's seems to me alot of the "do's and don'ts" contradicts, so it's been alot of testing. I find the mixing and getting everything ballanced to be especially challenging. 
 
Anyway... Been following this forum for a bit, and heard alot of good stuff here in the song section. Obviously many of you have much experience, so any comment would be greatly appriciated. 
 
Thanks!
 
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post edited by Texmes - 2015/04/23 08:46:54
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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/23 06:30:51 (permalink)
    ...Sorry about the link in the main post. Was not aware I had to make 5 posts before being able to posting a link. 
     
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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/23 07:52:08 (permalink)
    I like it.

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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/23 08:03:44 (permalink)
    Thank you. 
     
     
    post edited by Texmes - 2015/04/23 08:47:24
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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/23 09:22:14 (permalink)
    I think it's a really good song, and your voices are enviable.
    To my taste then there's way too much reverb. My advice would be to reduce the reverb significantly!
    I sense that the reverb is on the master output, which makes it all gets a little unclear.
    I listen to the song through the computer speakers, which may explain why I can not get all the nuances, but especially the vocals derserves to stand much more out in the song.
     
    This song has real potential in my view.
     
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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/23 09:29:40 (permalink)
    It's good, man. The intro is a little long for my taste, but other than that the mix is crisp and full. I really like the overall vibe. More!
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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/23 09:34:34 (permalink)
    Thanks alot Jaro. 
     
    I only had the BT Brickwall on the master bus. The reverb I used is put on FX busses. (So my vocal track is sent to a FX bus with reverb and then to master from there.) But I will try and tone it further down like you suggest, and see how it turns out. 
     
     
    Just a quick clarification. "way to much reverb in general" or just on the vocals?
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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/23 09:51:59 (permalink)
    To my ears I would say "in general". Others may have different views.
    I have some difficulties in hearing the various instruments, the guitar is the most dominant (and that`s OK, nice crispy sound) and then a little behind the guitar - the vocals. I could`nt hear any bass. It¨s about balancing the various instruments, however the use of (too much) reverb may distort this. 
     
    Just my subjective opinion, I´m in no way expert. 
    Hope it helps/explains
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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/23 10:55:42 (permalink)
    I enjoyed that very much. One thing that bugged me while listening was a left-right imbalance between the two guitars, which might be more noticeable in headphones. I was listening on speakers. I would pull the piano over to the right to offset the dominant guitar on the left.


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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/23 12:50:31 (permalink)
    Again, thanks to all of you for good feedback. I will try try to tweek both reverb and the left-right balance.

    As for not being able to hear the basetrack I'm a bit unsure what to do. I have played the song on several different stereos with different level on the lower EQ frequenses and volume in the mix. The problem is that the difference it quite notisable depending on the unit I play from. So I ended up with a setting that sounded ok on my monitor speakers.
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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/23 13:49:16 (permalink)
    A little bit of low-end rumble but my speakers aren't the best...good job.

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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/23 14:15:54 (permalink)
    This is a beautiful song with fine vocals.  I like what I heard as far as the mix is concerned.  Encore!

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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/23 14:30:28 (permalink)
    Lynn
    This is a beautiful song with fine vocals.  I like what I heard as far as the mix is concerned.  Encore!


    Thank you.
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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/23 14:31:58 (permalink)
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    A little bit of low-end rumble but my speakers aren't the best...good job.


    What would cause this? Bad Eq tuning or poor recording quality?
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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/23 16:13:53 (permalink)
    wELL, i WOULD SAY IF IT WAS POOR RECORDING QUALITY YOU COULD FIX IT BY PULLING BACK THE RIGHT LOW-END FREQUENCIES. (OOPS caps lock on!). One way to help prevent this from being in your final recordings is listen to your song in Headphones and on a few speaker systems to get a good feel for how your song sounds in a few different environments, that's my advice. -S
     


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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/23 16:39:05 (permalink)
    Very pretty song and the vocals were good, but too low in the mix IMO.  I was also getting a good deal of low end rumble on my speakers which sounded to me like resonance from the guitar body.  Overall an excellent first effort.
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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/24 01:20:33 (permalink)
    Bass a little less, vocals a little more, and holy cow this is a good song. Awesome unpredictablity in the arrangement.
     
    The snare is kind of buried somewhere, maybe it could come up, too, even the sidestick.
     
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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/24 04:55:24 (permalink)
    This is a great piece of work. You say you have only been using a DAW for a year, but I guess you've been producing stuff a lot longer than that?
     
    Some great comments above. I wish I could bring something to the party but that's not going to happen.
     
    Yeah, great song, thanks for posting 

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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/24 05:29:08 (permalink)
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    This is a great piece of work. You say you have only been using a DAW for a year, but I guess you've been producing stuff a lot longer than that?
     
    Some great comments above. I wish I could bring something to the party but that's not going to happen.
     
    Yeah, great song, thanks for posting 




    Thank you!   
     
    And to to answer your question I really have not produced or worked with music at all. I love music, and played a little guitar and piano when I was younger. What triggerd this was actually that I downloaded Garage Band on the iPad, and toyed a bit with it. Very fun but very limited (at least the version I had). So started to look into the different DAWs on the marked and got Sonar X3, some studio monitors and a mic. Have to admit the learning curve was pretty steep, but alot of good tips on youtube, CakeTV ond so on. I have made a few more songs now, but this is the only one so far that is finished. (or at least almost finished. Still needs to be finetuned some more)
     
     
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    Re: First song - feedback and tips appriciated 2015/04/24 05:35:07 (permalink)
    You are doing great then, and I look forward to hearing more 
     
    cheers
     
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