"The Lazeria Jam"

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2015/04/21 11:21:45 (permalink)

"The Lazeria Jam"

"The Lazeria Jam"
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the lazeria studio was a funky place....
around 1981, the band i was in at the time, rented it for 2 weeks, as a rehearsal space for whatever the going rate for that was then.
it was fun, because we had carte blanche to the whole studio all day and night for 2 weeks.
the engineer, used us as guinea pigs while we rehearsed, he'd set up all kinds of mic arrangements and screw around with stuff in the control room, which was big enough for about 3 guys to sit/stand in, and that was it.
it really was 'a control room'….. with the requisite Lava Lamp.
LOL
i remember some really big JBL monitors, don't have a clue what they were.
basically, Lazeria was a long rectangular shaped wide open concrete block building, out in the middle of nowhere....
low ceiling, i guess about 10'.....
"shag rug" everywhere....very dead room…..sounded like you could be recording steely dan records in there.
but the cool thing, was it was wired real smart.....
with snakes strategically placed, separate headphone mixers, lots of booms and lots of gobos...
all the gobos had a carpet surface on one side, wood paneling on the other..and they were on rollers, they were easy to move and position. they were beefy, probably a foot wide. i'm guessing, 6' wide by over my head, maybe 7-8 feet tall.
you could build any size isolation area you wanted....so it was super flexible. You could make it a very reflective space, by using the wood panel sides.
the board this jam was recorded thru was a 15 series teac, into a 85-16 16 channel 1" open reel tape deck...i thought it had a marvelous sound, the playback sounded so clean and sweet.
the guys that ran the studio, had built a bunch of unique one-off mics, basically they gutted different mics of their capsules and transformers, built these big plexiglass stretched-out-hexagonal shapes, and floated the mic capsules with wire, just above the surface of the plexi, using the plexi to 'capture' the sound waves.
my guitar, and the drums, were all captured with one of these weirdo homemade microphones.
later, the engineer dubbed us a cassette of the jam.
don't know whatever happened with the reel to reel tape, probably got re-used.....

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    synkrotron
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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/21 12:08:29 (permalink)
    LOL... Mad! And Funky too 

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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/21 18:18:49 (permalink)
    hi synkotron,
    glad you checked this old gem out...
     
    i had a blast playing with these guys, for several years of full time road work......

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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/21 19:20:09 (permalink)
    Lots of fun!  I would love to have seen that studio.  It seems like nothing you do ever sounds dated, and that's something.

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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/22 09:14:06 (permalink)
    Great jam.  Loved the bass tone and player!  You all stand out great as well. I remember jammin' for most my early life.  Good to hear this.

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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/22 18:56:48 (permalink)
    Is that this Quintin Berry?
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VffYU2cNKq4
     
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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/22 19:56:24 (permalink)
    dcumpian
    Is that this Quintin Berry?
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VffYU2cNKq4
     
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    yes, it is.
    LOL
     
    here we are, back in about 1981....
     


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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/23 18:06:48 (permalink)
    Lynn
    Lots of fun! I would love to have seen that studio. It seems like nothing you do ever sounds dated, and that's something.

    Lynn,
    you know, we were just kids, really..... and any building that had ANY sound gear in it, was impressive to us!!
    LOL,
    just a cinderblock building mostly,
    but being out of the city a ways, probably better that it did not look like anything special.
    but one thing you say, rings true,
    and that is about sounding dated......
    and i guess, as long as you have a pure sound (natural room vibe, clean recording) and use a basic good balanced sound source,
    and don't use long huge gated reverbs on your snare drums................!!
    HEHEH
     

    Rimshot
    Great jam. Loved the bass tone and player! You all stand out great as well. I remember jammin' for most my early life. Good to hear this.

    the bass player, quintin, use a really nice Alembic on that recording (see the old photo above)...
    it had a special cable connection, looked like an XLR built right into the bass, and it went thru a special preamp just for that bass, then he went direct into the board.
    you could cop ANY tone you wanted from that bass.
    but it excelled in funk slap style, which quintin was/is really good at.
     

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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/23 18:39:45 (permalink)
    Woo Hooo! Man, both the track of the jam and the Ditto looper were fun! LOL
    What guitar are you playing in the pic?
    Being 66, I started out in '63 playing everything on the radio at gigs in Chicago, till the hippie thing hit, then it was jam bands for a long time! LOL     I can't imagine hearing any of that stuff now. I certainly don't have any and an old room-mate sent an 8 mm film of a show at the U of I, Chicago ca '69, but no sound. Oh well, it was fun to see my '68 LP Custom and Twin's with JBLs.
    We rented a loft space along the river (the one Mayor Daley dumped green stuff in every St Patty's)and that was very handy, though we could only play there from 6pm till 7:30am (which we did!). After that we bought a summer camp in South Haven MI with a bunch of artists and professor types. That was very cool and extremely loose.
    Michael
     
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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/23 19:19:54 (permalink)
    So, I posted the above and went to read a review of an interface, that led to a review of a Great River ME-1NV, which led to this one by you, Rob! I laughed out loud and thought "you're everywhere!". LOL
    http://www.prostudioreviews.com/line6-am4.htm
     
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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/24 13:05:11 (permalink)
    pentimentosound
    Woo Hooo! Man, both the track of the jam and the Ditto looper were fun! LOL
    What guitar are you playing in the pic?
    Being 66, I started out in '63 playing everything on the radio at gigs in Chicago, till the hippie thing hit, then it was jam bands for a long time! LOL     I can't imagine hearing any of that stuff now. I certainly don't have any and an old room-mate sent an 8 mm film of a show at the U of I, Chicago ca '69, but no sound. Oh well, it was fun to see my '68 LP Custom and Twin's with JBLs.
    We rented a loft space along the river (the one Mayor Daley dumped green stuff in every St Patty's)and that was very handy, though we could only play there from 6pm till 7:30am (which we did!). After that we bought a summer camp in South Haven MI with a bunch of artists and professor types. That was very cool and extremely loose.
    Michael

     
    thanks micheal!
     
    but you lost me on the ditto looper.........?
     
     
     that pic, shows me playing a 1979 Ibanez Artist 2619.
    it had the typical les paul-style tone/volume wiring scheme,
    but added a phase switch on the bridge pickup.
    added a LOT of tonal options.
     
    i used that same guitar in the "Lazeria Jam" clip.
     
     
    it's really cool,
    to have a place that you could go into at any time,
    and do whatever you wanted, playing wise (and other, wise.) 
    LOL
     
    this jam kind of reflects that attitude and situation.
     

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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/24 15:28:58 (permalink)
    Sorry Bat, the ditto looper was from the youtube video I posted of Quintin Berry...
     
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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/24 15:46:13 (permalink)
    OH, I GOTHCA
    that's cool
     
    quintin is really good at putting stuff like that together,
    he's got a thousand good ideas

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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/24 17:06:59 (permalink)
    Yeah, him too. Birds of a feather, eh?  It would be nice to have a space like that now!
     
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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/24 18:04:35 (permalink)
    pentimentosound
    So, I posted the above and went to read a review of an interface, that led to a review of a Great River ME-1NV, which led to this one by you, Rob! I laughed out loud and thought "you're everywhere!". LOL
    http://www.prostudioreviews.com/line6-am4.htm
     
    Michael


    that's funny!
    i had forgotten that i wrote that review!
     
    i DID use that device for quite some time.....
    it had a lot of character, going into a good tube amp already set for some grit.
    much better/authentic sound than any of those pods

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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/24 21:00:41 (permalink)
    I was glad to find a review of it and even better that you wrote it! .., as I'd never seen/heard of that one. I had the DL4 and MM4, green echo and blue modulation modelers, and a POD2, though I only used that in my studio, along with a Yam DigiStomp, Classic ToneBone and a couple Rolands (amp farm?). All of them did some things well, and I used them on "no stage space" gigs right into the PA, but I haven't explored any of the new ones, like the HD500X, yet. All my pedals and amps went away (long story Chapt 7), so now I only have a few and am looking again. I did buy a Fender Mustang Floor, but just to "hold me" while I find the new "pile". LOL
    There are an amazing selection of them now!
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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/24 22:23:36 (permalink)
    honestly,
    at this point in my history of playing for fun and for a living,
    i'd probably invest in a KEMPER  profiling amp, and a decent rig for live volume monitoring,
    and call it done, if it were me, starting over.
     
    i'm a tube purist, and have stuck with a really high quality tube amp for many many years now,
    but after writing that review,
    i realized that for working guitarists,
    it was a brilliant piece of work,
     
    and now, years later,
    the Kemper is that equivalent for 'purists' of certain tones.
     
     
    the Axe 11 is another top shelf project.
     
     
    but for what it's worth,
    i will sell my '82 boogie soon.
     
    i will either trade out for a modern lunch box version of what i've had for so long (Mark 5:25), 
    or build a custom Trainwreck clone, at about 5-10 watts max,
    and get a Fender champ.
     
    those two would handle everything i want to do for studio guitar work.
     
     
    with modern direct boxes , it would be easy to slave those two out to a set of stereo powered monitors for stage work.
     
     
    that's kinda where my head is at now.
     

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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/24 22:32:39 (permalink)
    you gotta remember,
    this was a live jam,
    with the engineer mixing in real time,
    providing FX in the mix and printing in live time,
    he was part of the jam,

    and un rehearsed, just a moment in time.

    so, the bass was the thing we were all following,
    the truth of the moment was actually captured in the mix.

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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/25 06:21:38 (permalink)
    Loved it!  Cool stereo bass part.  I'm trying to remember who you guys sound like...someone on the Jam station on XM Satellite radio.....  Great guitar tones and lines.
    Kudos to your mix engineer too!

    Cheers!

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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/25 08:49:43 (permalink)
    I've retired from full time gigging, so my Princeton Reverb will be getting a Vox AC10 and probably an Orange Terror (MT?)for studio fun. A Champ clone/kit would be fun, too. I had a 1960 tweed one, '59 Bassman and '60 Concert, plus lots of Fenders over the past 5 decades, but never a Vox, nor Marshall. I would like to correct that!
        I can see the benefit/value of the Kemper and once I've got my whole studio/instruments "caught up", I might consider that, but it's not a priority.
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    Re: "The Lazeria Jam" 2015/04/30 22:07:21 (permalink)
    Hey Bats!  Cool sounding jam.  It kind of has the feel of the time.  I forgot about using the Ping-Pong panning as an effect until I heard this. 
    Great playing and greats sounds.
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