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2015/04/11 20:51:00 (permalink)

After the long dark winter...

An instrumental pop ballad. Dug out my ebow for this one after James reminded me that I had one somewhere.
 
https://dancumpian.bandcamp.com/track/after-the-long-dark-winter
 
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http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=13098171&q=hi&newref=1

or

https://soundcloud.com/dcumpian/after-the-long-dark-winter


Any comments or suggestions are always appreciated. Enjoy!
 
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/12 10:20:25 (permalink)
    Hi Dan,
    As you offered a choice of Bandcamp or Soundclick, I listened to both, and in my opinion the Soundclick was presented in much lower quality, probably 128? I noticed downsampled phasing artifacts in the cymbals right away, and the piano sounded thin.
     
    So very glad I listened to the Bandcamp version! A much better experience, and your song is a mellow sonic thrill! Bass is perfectly placed in the mix for me - acoustic nylon guitar is featured, and supported by all kinds of cool chorals and pads and . . . just great.
     
    I think this is a perfect combination of the natural acoustic with touches of the electronic. Compositionally, you have a nice development arc. I think the ending is like a gymnast nailing the landing. Well done!
     
     
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/12 10:36:41 (permalink)
    Very nice, Dan I went straight for the Bandcamp listen, gave me pictures of flying over wide open plains, swooping low to view what is below, then rising high.  Good stuff,  

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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/12 13:40:21 (permalink)
    This is a beautifully produced piece that evokes much imagery in my mind.  As far as I'm concerned, this is a final product.  I have to say that you and Tom have the golden ears because I listened to the bandcamp and soundclick versions, and I couldn't hear much difference between the two.  I may be revealing too much, thus, that is why I come to this site because my ears are obviously deficient in certain areas.  Anyway, great job, Dan, and keep it up!

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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/12 14:48:47 (permalink)
    Very nice! Sounds real good as usual. I like it , enjoyed listening to it. Thanks for sharing it with us.
     

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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/12 18:07:14 (permalink)
     
     
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    Hi Dan,
    As you offered a choice of Bandcamp or Soundclick, I listened to both, and in my opinion the Soundclick was presented in much lower quality, probably 128? I noticed downsampled phasing artifacts in the cymbals right away, and the piano sounded thin.
     
    So very glad I listened to the Bandcamp version! A much better experience, and your song is a mellow sonic thrill! Bass is perfectly placed in the mix for me - acoustic nylon guitar is featured, and supported by all kinds of cool chorals and pads and . . . just great.
     
    I think this is a perfect combination of the natural acoustic with touches of the electronic. Compositionally, you have a nice development arc. I think the ending is like a gymnast nailing the landing. Well done!
     
     
    cheers,
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    Thanks Tom for the very kind comments! I appreciate the comment about Bandcamp vs Soundclick. Soundclick is @ 160, so it is very poor. However, some people don't like going to Bandcamp, so I always have alternatives.
     
    This one came together from an intro I came up with about a year ago. It's the first song in a very long time that I wrote entirely on piano all the way to the end before adding anything more than a simple placeholder bass part and drum track. It almost wrote itself, lol.
     
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/12 18:08:23 (permalink)
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    Very nice, Dan I went straight for the Bandcamp listen, gave me pictures of flying over wide open plains, swooping low to view what is below, then rising high.  Good stuff,  




    Thank you Wookiee! I appreciate the visuals! Glad you enjoyed this.
     
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/12 18:36:28 (permalink)
    What a difference out the three sites; both SoundClick and SoundCloud sounded awful by comparison to Bandcamp.  IMO, I think SoundCloud is the worse of the three. Anyway, I don't use both those SC sites anymore (also the reason why I don't comment on those sites)!
     
    The piano (intro), I can subtly hear the hammers, impressive sound. The synth sound that comes in the build-up 'intro' sounded a bit lack-luster by comparison to the piano, though not too bad -- The attack parameters on the lead synth is very nice.
     
    Overall outstanding in all respects; strong melodies, sound, performances and arrangements are all excellent.  And just when you think nothing more, oh yes there is more - This is an epic composition worthy of music placement in a blockbuster movie. Classic, timeless, endearing, captivating. Its a winner.  Well done
     
     
     

     
     
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/13 06:38:43 (permalink)
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    This is a beautifully produced piece that evokes much imagery in my mind.  As far as I'm concerned, this is a final product.  I have to say that you and Tom have the golden ears because I listened to the bandcamp and soundclick versions, and I couldn't hear much difference between the two.  I may be revealing too much, thus, that is why I come to this site because my ears are obviously deficient in certain areas.  Anyway, great job, Dan, and keep it up!




    Thanks Lynn! Maybe not as deficient as you think. Once you learn to hear the difference, it can be somewhat of a curse, lol. I'm so sensitive to it now that when I heard a Journey song off of a CD, and the cymbals were run through a flanger, all I could think was why was the bit rate so low.
     
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/13 06:40:31 (permalink)
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    Very nice! Sounds real good as usual. I like it , enjoyed listening to it. Thanks for sharing it with us.
     




    Thank you Monty! I am glad you enjoyed the listen!
     
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/13 16:15:10 (permalink)
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    What a difference out the three sites; both SoundClick and SoundCloud sounded awful by comparison to Bandcamp.  IMO, I think SoundCloud is the worse of the three. Anyway, I don't use both those SC sites anymore (also the reason why I don't comment on those sites)!
     
    The piano (intro), I can subtly hear the hammers, impressive sound. The synth sound that comes in the build-up 'intro' sounded a bit lack-luster by comparison to the piano, though not too bad -- The attack parameters on the lead synth is very nice.
     
    Overall outstanding in all respects; strong melodies, sound, performances and arrangements are all excellent.  And just when you think nothing more, oh yes there is more - This is an epic composition worthy of music placement in a blockbuster movie. Classic, timeless, endearing, captivating. Its a winner.  Well done
     



    The lead synth is actually an ebow. Thank you for your very kind comments. I was actually going for somewhat less epic after my last one, but I guess I just can't help myself, lol.
     
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/14 02:35:37 (permalink)
    Once again Dan you have a truly wonderful mix, everything is clear as a bell, all of the tones sound tasteful. You make it sound like it come naturally to you.
    Really nice piece :)

     
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/14 10:26:39 (permalink)
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    Once again Dan you have a truly wonderful mix, everything is clear as a bell, all of the tones sound tasteful. You make it sound like it come naturally to you.
    Really nice piece :)




    Thank you Gus! Every mix gets a bit easier to get the results I'm looking for. Practice, practice, practice...
     
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/14 13:42:27 (permalink)
    very nice Dan - extremely subtle, tasteful and evocative. Enjoyed it a lot
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/14 18:10:58 (permalink)
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    very nice Dan - extremely subtle, tasteful and evocative. Enjoyed it a lot
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    Thank you Daryl! I appreciate the kind words...
     
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/15 10:06:23 (permalink)
    Beautiful music, Dan.  

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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/15 13:58:51 (permalink)
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    Beautiful music, Dan.  




    Thank you Warren!
     
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/15 17:46:41 (permalink)
    Dan,
    I listened to this at lunch today.  A pro mix. Sounds great!  I have a lot of respect for someone that can write a strong instrumental like this.  Well done!

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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/16 08:47:18 (permalink)
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    Dan,
    I listened to this at lunch today.  A pro mix. Sounds great!  I have a lot of respect for someone that can write a strong instrumental like this.  Well done!




    Thank you John! I appreciate it!
     
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/24 14:30:09 (permalink)
    Really nice, Dan.  Pretty melodies and song structure/arrangement. The mix is big, clear and wide open.  You really do have a knack for getting lots of elements to mix together with great clarity.   Love the nylon string guitar. 
     

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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/25 06:30:06 (permalink)
    I listened to the Soundcloud version and all I can say is- I can't find any crits to make!!  Fantastic job Dan. Loved your ending.  Mix sounds perfect on my computer speakers.  Really liked the strings.  OK... maybe the brass could use a hint of reverb...there.  LOL  I'll have to learn what an ebow is....
     
    Nice job!

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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/25 07:46:38 (permalink)
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    Really nice, Dan.  Pretty melodies and song structure/arrangement. The mix is big, clear and wide open.  You really do have a knack for getting lots of elements to mix together with great clarity.   Love the nylon string guitar. 
     




    Thanks Steve! Lots of practice pays off, lol. The mix may be a little dense, but I do like it that way.
     
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/25 07:47:59 (permalink)
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    I listened to the Soundcloud version and all I can say is- I can't find any crits to make!!  Fantastic job Dan. Loved your ending.  Mix sounds perfect on my computer speakers.  Really liked the strings.  OK... maybe the brass could use a hint of reverb...there.  LOL  I'll have to learn what an ebow is....
     
    Nice job!




    Thank you Tony! I usually have the opposite problem and use too much reverb.
     
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/25 12:59:17 (permalink)
    Hi Dan,
     
    I really enjoyed listening to After the Long Dark Winter. Such a beautiful and uplifting instrumental. Composition and production was top notch as far as I'm concerned.
     
    Nice to hear the Ebow... I must dust mine off... Might need a new battery by now haha
     
    cheers
     
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    edited for some school boy spelling mistakes 
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/25 13:49:15 (permalink)
    This is cool.  Nice stuff in there. I think the BC version does sound better too.
     
    This would be fun to jam on guitar ....
     
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/04/26 08:32:30 (permalink)
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    Hi Dan,
     
    I really enjoyed listening to After the Long Dark Winter. Such a beautiful and uplifting instrumental. Composition and production was top notch as far as I'm concerned.
     
    Nice to hear the Ebow... I must dust mine off... Might need a new battery by now haha
     
    cheers
     
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    edited for some school boy spelling mistakes 




    Thanks Andy! The ebow is pretty cool, but I don't know how to use it well enough so I can get it to do other sounds besides the standard "ebow" sound, lol. Glad you enjoyed the song!
     
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    http://dancumpian.bandcamp.com/ or https://soundcloud.com/dcumpian Studiocat Advanced Studio DAW (Intel i5 3550 @ 3.7GHz, Z77 motherboard, 16GB Ram, lots of HDDs), Sonar Plat, Mackie 1604, PreSonus Audiobox 44VSL, ESI 4x4 Midi Interface, Ibanez Bass, Custom Fender Mexi-Strat, NI S88, Roland JV-2080 & MDB-1, Komplete, Omnisphere, Lots o' plugins.    
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    clintmartin
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/06/25 20:42:16 (permalink)
    Nice piece of music. I guess I missed it originally, but I heard it today on Soundcloud. I'm glad I did, it's a very nice sounding song and fit my mood perfectly today.

    Cakewalk, Harrison Mixbus 4, Waveform 9, ADK intel i7 2600 3.40 ghz, 8gb Ram, Win 7, Presonus Audiobox 44VSL. 
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    dcumpian
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/06/26 10:41:30 (permalink)
    clintmartin
    Nice piece of music. I guess I missed it originally, but I heard it today on Soundcloud. I'm glad I did, it's a very nice sounding song and fit my mood perfectly today.




    Thanks a bunch Clint! I'm happy you enjoyed the song.
     
    Regards,
    Dan

    Mixing is all about control.
     
    My music:
    http://dancumpian.bandcamp.com/ or https://soundcloud.com/dcumpian Studiocat Advanced Studio DAW (Intel i5 3550 @ 3.7GHz, Z77 motherboard, 16GB Ram, lots of HDDs), Sonar Plat, Mackie 1604, PreSonus Audiobox 44VSL, ESI 4x4 Midi Interface, Ibanez Bass, Custom Fender Mexi-Strat, NI S88, Roland JV-2080 & MDB-1, Komplete, Omnisphere, Lots o' plugins.    
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/06/26 17:35:31 (permalink)
    Dan,
     
    Beautiful work, really enjoyable music.   I don't even listen for problems in your mixes anymore, they don't exist;)  You are definitely making some hay with those SSL plugs.  
     
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    Re: After the long dark winter... 2015/06/27 07:37:29 (permalink)
    markno999
    Dan,
     
    Beautiful work, really enjoyable music.   I don't even listen for problems in your mixes anymore, they don't exist;)  You are definitely making some hay with those SSL plugs.  
     
    Regards




    Thank you Mark! I still find that I will occasionally EQ myself into a corner. On a mix I am working on right now, I spent 2 hours last night simply bypassing the plugins on each track to find something that sounded odd, but I couldn't quite put my finger on. Turned out to be two tracks that I had made stupid EQ decisions on when I worked on the mix way longer than I should have last weekend. The things we do...
     
    Regards,
    Dan

    Mixing is all about control.
     
    My music:
    http://dancumpian.bandcamp.com/ or https://soundcloud.com/dcumpian Studiocat Advanced Studio DAW (Intel i5 3550 @ 3.7GHz, Z77 motherboard, 16GB Ram, lots of HDDs), Sonar Plat, Mackie 1604, PreSonus Audiobox 44VSL, ESI 4x4 Midi Interface, Ibanez Bass, Custom Fender Mexi-Strat, NI S88, Roland JV-2080 & MDB-1, Komplete, Omnisphere, Lots o' plugins.    
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