Import Audio Cd Doesn't Acknowledge all CDs?

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2015/04/24 14:46:26 (permalink)

Import Audio Cd Doesn't Acknowledge all CDs?

Hi Gang...
 
OK... This is Keni posting from a friend's login.
 
I'm trying to help him and an unusual issue has appeared.
 
I'm wondering if anyone can shed some light on this for us?
 
We're finding certain CDs do not appear in the import audio CD dialog....
 
If I saw CD's while the imnport dialog is open, a few disks repeatedly will not populate the import area.
 
Is this some form of protection? It seems to be only a handful so far and they are both small, large, and "private" companies...
 
I'm a bit stymied as I have not come up with this before...
 
Thanks!
Keni
 
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    LesTarr
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    Re: Import Audio Cd Doesn't Acknowledge all CDs? 2015/04/24 15:02:13 (permalink)
    A Quick Update...
     
    I have just found that two of thwe disks show in media player just fine, but when I look with windows explorer, only a movie file is visible on the disk...
     
    Is this some kind of mixed media disk as opposed to standard audio CD?
     
    If there isn't a way for Sonar or Windows itself to see the audio files, but media player can and does read the song list and play the songs....?
     
    What gives?
     
    Thanks...
    Keni
     
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    Re: Import Audio Cd Doesn't Acknowledge all CDs? 2015/04/24 15:40:34 (permalink)
    Some audio CD's are encoded with WMA encoding (I think that is it) which allows them to be set to not being able to be ripped (DRM protected). I had CD's from years ago with sound samples that I could not simply copy into the machine and used a utility I found online to do it (for the life of me I cannot remember which one though).
     
    Even looking at the CD with Windows Explorer I think showed file names, but no "file size," IIRC.

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    Re: Import Audio Cd Doesn't Acknowledge all CDs? 2015/04/24 17:06:59 (permalink)
    Sounds like you may have vCD's--rare in the West but common in Asia. Windows Media Player will play them, but the audio is encoded differently than music CD's. If you can actually play (not just see) them in Media Player, then a loopback (virtual or physical) could record the audio, or you might be able to use something like Pazzera Free Audio Extractor.
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    Re: Import Audio Cd Doesn't Acknowledge all CDs? 2015/04/24 18:50:25 (permalink)
    It needs to be a standard audio CD in Red Book audio format (most music CDs are encoded this way). Otherwise, it won't work.
     
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    Re: Import Audio Cd Doesn't Acknowledge all CDs? 2015/04/24 18:51:44 (permalink)
    Copy protected CD's are a thing.  Technically, they don't comply with the CD standard, but most stand-alone players can play them.
     
    http://www.isobuster.com/help/copy_protected_audio_cd
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    Re: Import Audio Cd Doesn't Acknowledge all CDs? 2015/04/24 20:17:09 (permalink)
    Thanks everybody...

    Yeah, I've been guessing some of this... A workaround is simple as I just rip it with media player and then importa as audio into Sonar...

    But I found a number of disks... Some of them showed nothing but a wma or MP4 file whike others showed a number of file folders with various non-music files... One even has an exe file that it somehow uses...

    Ok... My guess was that they are not standard CDA ... But my friend Les is certain that he was previously able to do this within Sonar... That's what has me twisted.... I'm thinking he is somehow mixing some info/memories...

    He's running X3e... And this is his first X generation installation of Sonar so I couldn't understand how it could have worked before but not now...? He came from Sonar 5!

    Thanks again...

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    Re: Import Audio Cd Doesn't Acknowledge all CDs? 2015/04/25 10:17:12 (permalink)
    I've one CD that contains mixed media. Audio which works in any CD player plus video and photos that can be viewed in a PC. The video stuff uses a small application on the CD that's ignored by CD players.

    It's one produced a quite a few years ago containing archived collected material concerning an English traditional musician. I tried importing the audio into whichever version of Windows Media Player was around at the time but no joy. Haven't tried in years though so maybe a more modern application could cope with it. I'd check only I'm away from home for a few days.

    That format was once touted as the "great new multimedia thing" but never took off, at least in Europe and the Americas.

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    Re: Import Audio Cd Doesn't Acknowledge all CDs? 2015/04/25 11:26:45 (permalink)
    Thanks tlw...

    It seems to work in media player on win7...

    But I guess the Sonar ripper hasn't been updated to deal with these... I see a few different layouts so it's not a strict, single format happening...

    My real twist is that Les is certain it did work in X3e previously? I feel certain he's got some memories tangled...

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    Re: Import Audio Cd Doesn't Acknowledge all CDs? 2015/07/26 15:43:18 (permalink)
    Hello,
     
    This is the first time for me using this forum for asking questions.  I've just finished recording a radio show and discovered that after editing the show it sounds low in volume with lot's of static.  This is the first time this has happened to me.  I've tried listening to other shows I've recorded and the problem is happening there as well.  I use SONAR X3 and this is the first time I've had this problem.  Since I work for two different radio stations I'm always working to meet my deadlines.  Any help in resolving this problem will be of help.  Thanks mucho...
     
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