Custom Smart Tool

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2015/04/28 23:23:05 (permalink)
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Custom Smart Tool

It would be nice, along with the smart tool that Sonar has included, to be able to also select a "custom smart tool" that would have whichever tools that you choose to include in it.
 
Let's say when you're doing vocal comping or piano roll editing, there are certain functions that you want from the smart tool, but others that actually slow the process down or make you have to choose a different tool temporarily to achieve a particular task. Wouldn't it be great if you could just choose which tools you would like based on your workflow or for doing a particular task?
 
Let me know if you have a thoughts or ideas about this. I think this could be really useful for some people... I know I would love this when working in the Piano Roll.
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    williamcopper
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    Re: Custom Smart Tool 2015/04/29 03:55:51 (permalink)
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    Great idea.   I too find the current rigid settings actually cause slowness in far too many ways, especially in PRV going back and forth between the notes and the controller view.   Actually just one little improvement would please me: being able to set the right click and center click actions for a tool.    I know you can use a keyboard key + mouse click, but that always requires shifting paws.
     
    And puhlease get rid of "edit points" on notes.   Dumbest thing ever thought of, unless maybe for people for whom a note is a great big thing to be centered on the screen and admired cartoon size.
     
    post edited by williamcopper - 2015/04/29 04:02:44
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    Re: Custom Smart Tool 2015/06/22 12:58:53 (permalink)
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    Yeah, Custom Tool would be great. Just a few tweaks could transform Smart Tool from total disaster to pretty good and usable instrument. But it seems that nobody hears us.
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    Re: Custom Smart Tool 2015/06/22 13:51:16 (permalink)
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    It all depends on the amount of "us"s"...

     
     
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    Re: Custom Smart Tool 2015/06/22 16:23:29 (permalink)
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    Associate the custom control bar with tools of your choice - and you have a context sensitive toolbar.
     
    So any number of custom controlbars, maybe with images as well.
    Then decide if you want a custom set to be associated with certains tools(like a checkbox for each now existing).
    So a tool checked is active - that that custom set is visible for you.
     
    So now you can choose from "menu items" and "commands", maybe "Tools" too to put in custom bar.
    Haven't thought it through - but custom is always good, no limit on that one.
     
    Smart tool has worked now for a while for me "touch wood", but suddenly it doesn't.
    And then you have to jump between these operations to do the most simple tasks.
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    Re: Custom Smart Tool 2015/06/22 16:31:00 (permalink)
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    It would be nice, along with the smart tool that Sonar has included, to be able to also select a "custom smart tool" that would have whichever tools that you choose to include in it.
     
    Let's say when you're doing vocal comping or piano roll editing, there are certain functions that you want from the smart tool, but others that actually slow the process down or make you have to choose a different tool temporarily to achieve a particular task. Wouldn't it be great if you could just choose which tools you would like based on your workflow or for doing a particular task?
     
    Let me know if you have a thoughts or ideas about this. I think this could be really useful for some people... I know I would love this when working in the Piano Roll.


    The main thing I seek is being able to remove some functions from the Smart Tool. For example, I don't use Speed Comping, but invariably, the Smart Tool function for Speed Comping totally gets in my way when trying to select sections of clips. I have to really expand the height of the Lanes, which is a bit more work and navigation to make things easier. 

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    Re: Custom Smart Tool 2015/06/23 05:19:10 (permalink)
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    We were promised customization 4 years ago:
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2281856
    And it seems that it is the last news.
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    Re: Custom Smart Tool 2015/06/23 12:14:57 (permalink)
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    Adq
    We were promised customization 4 years ago:
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2281856
    And it seems that it is the last news.




    I don't read anyone in the linked thread promising anything, there's not even a Cakewalk representative posting in that thread.

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    Re: Custom Smart Tool 2015/06/23 12:57:40 (permalink)
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    Fastbikerboy mentioned this:
    "I think customisation is the answer. Brandon has indicated that this will come in future versions."
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    Re: Custom Smart Tool 2015/07/03 18:48:04 (permalink)
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    This was previously requested here:
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/Custom-draw-tool-mappings-m3228674.aspx
     
    Make some noise for this if you need it folks!
     
    This is my number one request. My workflow is completely fuxored because Cakewalk has decided THEY know how the drawing tools should work and I am stuck w/ their choices which do not work at all for me.
     
    We USED to have custom assignments for the draw tools. But Cakewalk took it away. Taking away a key feature -- PARTICULARLY user customization is a never do. CAKEWALK: PLEASE BRING BACK USER CUSTOMIZED DRAW TOOLS ASAP!



    post edited by Notecrusher - 2015/07/04 16:21:08
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    Re: Custom Smart Tool 2015/07/03 22:09:16 (permalink)
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    And puhlease get rid of "edit points" on notes.   Dumbest thing ever thought of, unless maybe for people for whom a note is a great big thing to be centered on the screen and admired cartoon size.



    I have MIDI Microscope enable on a keyboard shortcut. I find it particularly useful when there's only the tiniest of slivers between note end and note start, but I want to click in there to create a selection rectangle.

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    Re: Custom Smart Tool 2015/07/03 22:10:09 (permalink)
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    Notecrusher
    This was previously requested here:
    http://forum.cakewalk.com...-m3228674.aspx#3236996
    Make some noise for this if you need it folks!



    The link doesn't work, can you try again? You probably copied the link from a post, which abbreviates it.

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    Re: Custom Smart Tool 2015/07/04 15:56:07 (permalink)
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    Anderton
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    And puhlease get rid of "edit points" on notes.   Dumbest thing ever thought of, unless maybe for people for whom a note is a great big thing to be centered on the screen and admired cartoon size.



    I have MIDI Microscope enable on a keyboard shortcut. I find it particularly useful when there's only the tiniest of slivers between note end and note start, but I want to click in there to create a selection rectangle.




    Quite often the scale you are working at is simply the scale you are working at, it's not just a one-off situation where you need to deal w/ a zone the size of a pixel. You are in a continuous state of attempting miniscule mouse movements to target that one pixel on each note to peg the velocity tool. Super-magnification does not solve that problem. In addition I find the MIDI microscope completely disorienting. 
    post edited by Notecrusher - 2015/07/04 16:28:31
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    Re: Custom Smart Tool 2015/07/04 16:12:03 (permalink)
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    Anderton
    Notecrusher
    This was previously requested here:
    http://forum.cakewalk.com...-m3228674.aspx#3236996
    Make some noise for this if you need it folks!



    The link doesn't work, can you try again? You probably copied the link from a post, which abbreviates it.


     
    http://forum.cakewalk.com...mappings-m3228674.aspx
    post edited by Notecrusher - 2015/07/04 16:24:05
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    Re: Custom Smart Tool 2015/07/05 09:41:45 (permalink)
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    I have MIDI Microscope enable on a keyboard shortcut. I find it particularly useful when there's only the tiniest of slivers between note end and note start, but I want to click in there to create a selection rectangle.
     
    That's a good idea.   I have probably spent cumulatively a day's work in trying to click just on the exact pixel to do what I'm trying to do with a note of short duration.  But as many people have observed, when you keep having to learn and adopt new work-arounds for bad design choices, it makes you unfriendly to the software that requires the workarounds.
    post edited by williamcopper - 2015/07/05 09:49:12
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    Re: Custom Smart Tool 2015/07/07 18:08:52 (permalink)
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    I have MIDI Microscope enable on a keyboard shortcut. I find it particularly useful when there's only the tiniest of slivers between note end and note start, but I want to click in there to create a selection rectangle.
     
    That's a good idea.   I have probably spent cumulatively a day's work in trying to click just on the exact pixel to do what I'm trying to do with a note of short duration.  But as many people have observed, when you keep having to learn and adopt new work-arounds for bad design choices, it makes you unfriendly to the software that requires the workarounds.




    MIDI Microscope has been around since SONAR 7 IIRC, so I adapted to it a long time ago. After all these years it feels natural and lets me work faster on "dense" MIDI parts. This was particularly important with MIDI guitar parts (which I rarely do any more, the You Rock guitar is much more consistent even though it looks funny) as they tend to spray all kinds of little useless notes all over the place. The De-Glitch menu item helps, but I'd still have to do manual cleanup.

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