So Anyone Besides Me Lusting After the New Yamaha TF Consoles?

It might be a bit off topic for the Sonar X/Platinum forum but I AM using X3e and have been a Cakewalk customer for quite a long time and have no ambition to switch DAW's.  
I've been wanting to go to a console for a while now.  While there's not a lot of info (or marketing) regarding using these desks in a studio I have a gut feeling it could be a great option for a studio like mine.  I guess the game changer would be fader/pan automation from Sonar- which I'd guess it would be available (they mention multi-track recording to any ASIO based DAW), I'd want to know for certain.  They seemed to have paid some attention to the mic pre's- which is a great idea for a console maker!  Anyone have any thoughts?

I am surprised at the cost though.  It was cheaper than expected.  It is a live desk though in reality. Can it actually do everything you want.
 
I have also had the 01V for many years too and it is still running perfect.  The newer model is very good too.
 
Some of the larger Yamaha digital studio mixers are very cool too but much more expensive than the TF range.
 
I am on Studio One and Presonus is going down a differnet road with their gear now and they have just raleased a new controller that doubles as a live controller for remote stage hardware and also Studio One.
 
You might be better off waiting to see if a dedictaed Sonar controller ever comes out again.
 
Any digital mixer can be adapted though such as the 01V96i. In fact the 01V96i has analog emulation stuff in it now and you can add more of it in too.

It doesn't matter what DAW you use with a digital mixer in most regards. But it does matter a lot on how you plan to use it. The sky is the limit. Digital mixers are the swiss army knife of the audio world. They can do it all. But not all of them do everything as good as others. 
 
The cheaper models are only 2 track output. Once you get up there they become multi track audio interfaces. I think the breaking point is mid teens $$.
So then it comes down to how good are the drivers just like any audio interface. If all your doing is tracking live audio this does not matter as much. But if your doing full VST integration then latency will matter.
  

That's a control surface I would think, Because we use automation, it is better to do it INB so therefore using a digital mixer for mixing a DAW is sort of not what people do.  

No I'm using the old old old 01v.  I would think all the Yamaha's "work" with any DAW.
I'm not dead sure about ther newest generation but mine is simple as it uses MIDI so easily mapped to Sonar. The Yamaha community made a few Sonar maps long time ago, you can find info on user group forums example-
http://forums.prosoundweb.com/index.php?topic=83906.0