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2015/05/06 15:43:28 (permalink)

Anyone considering a downgrade?

I've been looking at the first 3 updates on Platinum and I count 3 features that are unique. Vocal sync, Vocal sync filter and goldtop expansion. I don't use any of them and I'm thinking when my membership is up I'll renew at the professional level instead of Platinum.
 
Anyone else thinking along these lines, just curious.

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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/06 16:05:15 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tlw 2015/05/08 14:22:50
Nope. I'm of the opinion that
 
1. Platinum is probably tested more than the downgraded versions
2. What I don't need today I may need tomorrow.
3. Everyone thinks I'm a fanboy, I don't want to spoil the party
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/06 16:16:55 (permalink)
I'll also very likely stay with Platinum......even if I don't use all the goodies that come with it, I like to know they're available when/if need. Also, I don't think the pricing is too much of a difference. 
Some of the stuff that Craig's been working on has turned out to be very useful (especially the amp Fx), and I like the idea of getting these "gifts".....(good gifts) every month.

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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/06 16:53:22 (permalink)
 
 
I have to be honest, I've been rather underwhelmed and a little disappointed with Platinum so far.
 
The loops and amp sims may well be of great use to some, but I doubt I'll ever use them.
 
ReMatrix Solo and the Custom Control Bar are very nice, but they're not worth $150 to me I'm afraid.
 
Mind you, I wonder if the 'dribs and drabs' monthly method of delivering the product might actually be having a diluting effect on the wow factor we've become accustomed to with yearly-ish upgrades? It could feasibly be argued that even if we were to actually end up receiving 'more' SONAR via twelve monthly instalments than we might have got in a single yearly hit, psychologically it doesn't really feel like it.
 
All the same, I'm still hopeful that a few tasty titbits will arrive along the way. After all, that's exactly how they touted the new monthly membership model.

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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/06 17:11:05 (permalink)
I get the impression that SPlat is undergoing a growth in programming personnel. I think the Bakers are trying to beef up the three main aspects that make up SONAR.
 
1. Stability
2. Membership gifts (Anderton etc)
3. Features (Control Bar, the Drum Replacer, Vocal Sync etc)
 
The above list does not and should not include the likes of 3rd party plugs like AD2. These are "marketing" enhancements.
 
Having had to hire programming staff myself in the past I can say that ramp up time can be long (not 30, 60 or 90 days but more like 6-9 months) and productivity can be low during said ramp up.
 
That said I'm not more or less underwhelmed than any other version transition. 
 
Straummy makes a good point. When handed four or five major features at once can be "exciting". Getting those major enhancement over 12 months might well seem like "oh, here's something to look at, or not. ho-hum.".
 
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/06 17:12:41 (permalink)
Up to X3 I've always thought that Producer edition was easily worth the extra. This time I haven't upgraded at all as I've yet to see anything that makes me think I want it. When it was announced a years payment was billed as like getting X4 and X5 rolled into one. To date I'd call it X3.5. I can only assume that they're holding back some more worthwhile stuff for towards the end of the first year so that people who bought into the concept of a rolling version will keep the faith. I really want to want it, but I just don't.
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/06 17:14:38 (permalink)
bitflipper and Jaymes are still on 8.x. 
 
Shows there is no reason to blindly upgrade (like the rest of us lemmings).
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/06 17:21:57 (permalink)
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bitflipper and Jaymes are still on 8.x. 
 
Shows there is no reason to blindly upgrade (like the rest of us lemmings).




If it hadn't been for melodyne ARA, I would probably still be on 8.53 PE too, though I will admit that the track view does look a bit clunky now.
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/06 17:43:36 (permalink)
paulo
 though I will admit that the track view does look a bit clunky now.


Am I to assume you mean 8.5.3's track view?
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/06 17:47:42 (permalink)
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paulo
 though I will admit that the track view does look a bit clunky now.


Am I to assume you mean 8.5.3's track view?




You am.
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/06 21:41:12 (permalink)
I too have not upgraded.  I am trying to justify the cost vs. what I do, but I am coming up with blanks.  I guess it could be worth it just for the few upgraded features plus the ADpacks for AD2, but I don't really need those either.
 
Something hopefully will come along that says, "Ah ha! I must have that!"
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/06 22:20:53 (permalink)
I feel like I got my (annual) moneys worth right out of the gate with the AD Producer Pak, mix recall and the new control bar. I haven't really felt a need for any of the offerings since. It will take something compelling for me to upgrade again when my one year membership is up. I have no regrets upgrading to Platinum this go round.
 
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/06 23:27:21 (permalink)
I don't think I'll downgrade, just delay the next payment. I haven't downloaded any of the bundled stuff, except for the small room reverbs for the ReMatrix. The enhancements seem part of of a features development, so jump back on later means we should see these with later updates. The fixes are accumulative, so I'll see these too. The wait for a the main feature that's been touted, Drum Replacer, has shown me that you can wait a few months and offset this saving against early offers.
 
To make me purchase in January again would need some tasty additions and development at that point.
 
 

 
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/07 08:15:59 (permalink)
bapu
bitflipper and Jaymes are still on 8.x. 
 
Shows there is no reason to blindly upgrade (like the rest of us lemmings).




If his sig is correct, Batsbrew is still using Sonar 6. Just shows what can be achieved.

 
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/07 09:27:08 (permalink)
We'll see at renewal time.  So far, I am satisfied with the updates; they seem to mostly be stabilization enhancements.  I'm hoping that they do more with editing and mastering features in the future.  

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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/07 10:01:27 (permalink)
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bapu
bitflipper and Jaymes are still on 8.x. 
 
Shows there is no reason to blindly upgrade (like the rest of us lemmings).




If his sig is correct, Batsbrew is still using Sonar 6. Just shows what can be achieved.


Maybe I should install Sonar 5 and be Juan mo bettah than Bats.
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/07 16:17:44 (permalink)
I'm still on Producer v4... 
 
(But I'll upgrade if someone wants to send me a kick-butt DAW machine to put the upgrade on!  )

 
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/07 17:31:13 (permalink)
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Up to X3 I've always thought that Producer edition was easily worth the extra. This time I haven't upgraded at all as I've yet to see anything that makes me think I want it... I really want to want it, but I just don't.

 
I went from Home Studio 6 to X3 Studio and then rather quickly to X3 Producer. And like Paulo haven't seen anything since that makes me want to divert my music money in that direction. Folks have said SPlat is much more stable, but I haven't had any stability issues in X3. AD means nothing to me, as I typically record bluegrass or acoustic folk (no drums in those genres). Synths are the same story. For folks that use this stuff, it might be worthwhile, but not for me.
 
As I said earlier, I have a limited amount of funding for my music hobby. At this point I would rather put that limited funding into something more musical than a DAW.

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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/07 17:52:45 (permalink)
I still have 8.5 on my daw, and still make 8.5 moves with my mouse. Like bounce to clips used to be on the edit menu I think or my right arm muscles think anyway.
 
I could go back in a pinch but I like the console emulator.
 
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/07 18:18:16 (permalink)
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I still have 8.5 on my daw, and still make 8.5 moves with my mouse. Like bounce to clips used to be on the edit menu I think or my right arm muscles think anyway.
 
I could go back in a pinch but I like the console emulator.
 


i was going to upgrade from 8.5 but the only feature i really wanted was some voice correction(V-Vocal?)and decided instead to only record singers who are confident they can sing in tune,to their satisfaction. 
too easy
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/07 18:45:20 (permalink)
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I don't think I'll downgrade, just delay the next payment. 



I am pretty sure that skipping a payment is a downgrade. When your monthly payment stops so will the functioning of the new version. If you want to use a version of Sonar at that point it will have to be a version you already own from before the new membership model stated (without any features you downloaded for the new version). Whether you will be able to use things like loops that you downloaded for the new version with your old version, I do not know.
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/07 20:18:45 (permalink)
I'm not on monthly, my next payment will be in January.

 
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/08 06:59:33 (permalink)
Pretty content with what we have so far.
The features that came at release time, mix recal, vocal sync, and the numerous little enhancements were probably worth the price of upgrade.
I'm glad to see the bakers living up to their lofty ideals of what they wanted to do with the membership. While I'm a guitarist I've had enough Craigerton content. We discussed it the other day and I got the impression that he's the only one creating content for the membership so I guess that's what we'll keep getting.
I'm liking the response to forum requests by the bakers and I'm keen to have a full 12 months to look back on to really evaluate Sonar and membership progress.

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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/08 14:36:33 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby craigb 2015/05/08 15:27:03
craigb
I'm still on Producer v4... 
 

OK I'll go back to PA-3...
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/08 21:20:45 (permalink)
When my year is up I'll compare what I got from Platinum against what I would have missed on Professional. I think core improvements is what I'm really interested in and I don't need any more effects chains or loops. Time will tell.

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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/08 21:40:52 (permalink)
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When my year is up I'll compare what I got from Platinum against what I would have missed on Professional. I think core improvements is what I'm really interested in and I don't need any more effects chains or loops. Time will tell.


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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/09 02:12:52 (permalink)
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Nope. I'm of the opinion that
 
1. Platinum is probably tested more than the downgraded versions
2. What I don't need today I may need tomorrow.
3. Everyone thinks I'm a fanboy, I don't want to spoil the party


Dude, at least half the people on this forum are fanboys. They were quick to shut people up when they were outraged over the business practices they adopted. They have every right to their opinion, especially since they paid money.
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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/09 02:20:50 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2015/05/09 02:38:38
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Nope. I'm of the opinion that
 
1. Platinum is probably tested more than the downgraded versions
2. What I don't need today I may need tomorrow.
3. Everyone thinks I'm a fanboy, I don't want to spoil the party


Dude, at least half the people on this forum are fanboys. They were quick to shut people up when they were outraged over the business practices they adopted. They have every right to their opinion, especially since they paid money.


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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/09 05:46:29 (permalink)
bapu
 
As myolpal sez. It take all kinds to make a horse race.




Yup, but a race only has one winner and so far the view from atop the CW nag is mostly full of arse......
 

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Re: Anyone considering a downgrade? 2015/05/09 05:48:54 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2015/05/09 12:09:12
mudgel
Pretty content with what is about all we have so far.


 
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