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2015/05/15 12:28:20 (permalink)

MIDI sequence reader

 
Anyone knows of a program that would take a MIDI sequence and make it readable in human form?
I have a few MIDI sequences that will not open in SONAR yet, they will play in Windows Media Player. I'm looking at a program that says it can convert MIDI sequences into CSV or Word format and want to know if there are other similar programs.
 
 
Hello let's see if I can clarify a few things I used the term "open" I was generally speaking, to mean load, open, import, drag and drop, right click and choose, all mean the same thing to me and yes I have tried all these. When I do open the files in question SONAR crash still some I can preview in SONAR others if I preview them that would crash SONAR too.
As to posting into original it's no longer and important how many post I have and this is keep it neat. Thanks slartabartfast of for the typo. 
"Readable in human form" you know how you can open a sfz file in notepad this is readable in human form if you open a MIDI sequence in notepad what you see would not be readable in human form. An internet search turn up some really old programs XP, Vista and older, the program I am referring to is open source and still under development.  So I thought maybe somebody in this community would know of such a program.
post edited by Red4Con1 - 2015/05/15 19:32:45

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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/15 12:45:17 (permalink)
I don't think I quite understand the question. I assume any DAW shows MIDI events in some kind of a Event List,
where you can read details of MIDI events in plain words, if that's what you mean. Do you mean a similar thing, but a standalone version?

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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/15 12:54:51 (permalink)
So a Solfège converter?

 
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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/15 13:09:44 (permalink)
Spend a few more words, and let us know what you are trying to do. As noted previously, almost any MIDI editor or sequencer, like Sonar, will let you see the MIDI events in a MIDI file in readable form. Many will make a valiant attempt to display them in standard music notation.
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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/15 13:12:32 (permalink)
Views > Event List (Alt+8) ?
 
 

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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/15 13:59:42 (permalink)
I am confused by the OP as well. For any MIDI track the Piano Roll View and Staff View are quite useful. I am not sure if the event list was the OP's intent, but that also is useful.

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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/15 14:45:42 (permalink)
I think the key to the OPs question is "it will not open in Sonar yet".
Why won't it "open"? Have you tried importing it?
 

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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/15 15:02:43 (permalink)
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I think the key to the OPs question is "it will not open in Sonar yet".
Why won't it "open"? Have you tried importing it?
 



Yes, but that wasn't there when the above answers were written. The original post included only the first
sentence of the post.
It would have been better to give the explanation as new post instead of adding it to the original one.
This makes the first answers look stupid.

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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/15 15:24:03 (permalink)
Ah the classic edit your post switcharoo. Before the OP did not look like what he was talking about, now it looks like he does and nobody else knows what they are talking about! Suffered that one on multiple occasions... we better get back to quoting

Red4Con1
Anyone knows of a program that would take a MIDI sequence and make it readable in human form?
I have a few MIDI sequences that will not open in SONAR yet, they will play in Windows Media Player. I'm looking at a program that says it can convert MIDI sequences into CVS or Word format and want to know if there are other similar programs.



I am still confused by what "readable in human form" means. Perhaps you want to turn it into sheet music? In comic sans?
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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/15 16:10:24 (permalink)
How are you trying to "open" them in Sonar? Unless Sonar is set as the default MIDI player for your Windows installation just clicking the file icon will open them in that default player.The best way to get the file into Sonar is to use File>Import>MIDI, to import it into a MIDI track. You can also use the browser or drag and drop. If doing that does not work, is there an error message?
 
What are you planning to do with a MIDI event list in MS Word  or CVS[sic] (I assume you mean comma separated values=CSV) format?
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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/15 20:43:07 (permalink)
 It sounds as if the OP has some midi files that crash sonar and some that don't and he would like to determine what is unique about the files that crash as opposed to those that do not.  There might be a better way to go about this.  I have not had this problem but I only import midi files that I have created in a notation application. 
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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/15 21:14:22 (permalink)
I am still confused... If WMP plays the file, then it must be in a MIDI format... Right clicking the file and "Open with..." and choosing SONAR is the simplest method. If NO "MIDI output" is assigned in SONAR X3 and above, SONAR will also insert and route the TTS-1 synth for you.

It might help to post one of the files that crashes SONAR. What SONAR version are you using?
post edited by mettelus - 2015/05/15 21:21:48

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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/15 22:57:30 (permalink)
To the OP...

Please stop editing your opening post this is confusing the hell out of people! This is a conversation please post below. You need to keep to forum etiquette. Many thanks..
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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/15 23:05:04 (permalink)
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Hello let's see if I can clarify a few things I used the term "open" I was generally speaking, to mean load, open, import, drag and drop, right click and choose, all mean the same thing to me and yes I have tried all these. When I do open the files in question SONAR crash still some I can preview in SONAR others if I preview them that would crash SONAR too.
As to posting into original it's no longer and important how many post I have and this is keep it neat.

When SONAR crashes does it produce an error message or minidump?
 
Although continually modifying the original post works for you it may discourage others from replying to your threads.
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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/15 23:31:41 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Red4Con1 2015/05/16 00:11:23
There was many midi converter apps around back in the day, and most of them trashed the data, or added data that caused crashes in players other than the original program.
 
Just a shot in the dark.

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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/16 00:38:04 (permalink)
Point taken scook & Doktor Avalanche
scook would copying things back to original and still make separate post make people not want respond to my post?

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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/16 00:43:28 (permalink)
Adding all your posts to the original is a little confusing. I would recommend not doing it.
 
What created the misbehaving MIDI files?
Any chance of making available one of the files which crashes SONAR so others could look at it?
post edited by scook - 2015/05/16 01:07:28
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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/16 11:31:56 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2015/05/17 03:17:59
Nothing to add to the issue itself, but as to modifying the OP - it's usually best to add "Edit" or similar making it clear what you started with and what's been added/changed.    Or, you could just reply to the thread to do that.  

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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/16 14:03:20 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby mettelus 2015/05/17 04:22:57
I'm going to guess these midi files have their timecode set to smpte instead of ppq. if you want to send me a file I'll take a look. i haven't found a daw yet that opens midi files with smpte timecodes correctly.

 
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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/18 20:22:50 (permalink)
hey red4 here's an old post i helped another user with.  http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2810578
if you're comfortable with a hex editor, give this a shot...  i was a bit loopy and referred to smpte as smtp, but you should get the idea...

 
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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/18 22:10:31 (permalink)
I was searching for MIDI tools over the weekend and ran into this page which has a very similar first sentence to what the OP (originally) was. Left me wondering how these offending MIDI files were created.
 
I believe you can send a PM after 25 posts (?) so if the OP posts a few quick comments, you can PM swamptooth (or simply post a link to one of those files in a reply with the hyperlink split apart (e.g., DOT com, etc)). Having one of these offending files to examine would help the MIDI heavies here help you.
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Re: MIDI sequence reader 2015/05/19 13:02:17 (permalink)
There are a variety of "midi monitors" that simply read a stream of data and print each event to your screen in "english-ish".    The very old midi site, "midi-ox.com" is still safe, I believe (you never know what 'free downloads' may bring you ... )
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