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1ManMusic
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2015/05/15 21:58:47 (permalink)

Guitar

Hello!
 
I have owned and underused Cakewalk products for over 15 years now.  I have begun using it more, specifically to beef up my compositions.  Just this past semester (Spring 2015), I took a digital audio course taught by Rutgers University professor Aurie Hsu, Ph. D. 

 
I have finally given up, and decided to fully self-produce my debut CD release after nearly 10 years since I decided there would be a CD. 
 
I have played sax, and afro-latin percussion since childhood. I learned classical guitar in the past 6 years while completing a B.A. in music, and adapted the technique to bass. 
 
I write fully orchestrated music using Noteworthy Music Composer, and export the proprietary format to midi, and finish it in Sonar. 

I neither play nor own an electric guitar.  I hear the sound of electric guitar as I write, but I have not been able to find a sample in Sonar Studio or Platinum that sounds authentic.  I have not searched exhaustively in a long time, but when I did, I did not find anything that did not sound synthesized.

I have decided to perform the classical guitar lines myself and comp/overdub as necessary.  However, I would like to have the option to do this or use a good sample.  Is there a sample that comes with Sonar Platinum or Studio that does it for you?  Is there one that is close enough, and sounds fantastic after working it through filters and effects?

Thanks for your suggestions.

post edited by 1ManMusic - 2015/06/02 20:11:55
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Re: Guitar 2015/05/15 22:08:19 (permalink)
Greek?

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Guitar 2015/05/16 18:57:43 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby 1ManMusic 2015/05/31 12:16:12
Sonar Platinum comes with AAS Strum Acoustic Session Edition ... upgradable to the new GS-2 at AAS for $99(?).(updated and merged with their electric guitar product).
 
TTS-1, also included has some guitars.
 
Technique is potentially an issue with replicating guitar on a DAW. That's what AAS Strum attempts to address.
 
I haven't tried it yet but you could try routing Strum through Overloud TH2 to replicate electric guitars.
I also haven't upgraded from X3 yet but understand that there are new Craig Anderton Amp/IR Sims.
 

post edited by ShellstaX - 2015/05/16 19:10:31
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Re: Guitar 2015/05/16 20:00:42 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby 1ManMusic 2015/05/31 12:16:32
Going back to when MIDI started guitar patches were pretty weak, but these days there are all sorts of guitar sounds out there to get. Good luck.
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Re: Guitar 2015/05/17 09:45:03 (permalink)
Ha ... No I don't read Greek ... (other than perhaps Gyros, which I became quite fond of when in Athens) ...
 
When I responded to this earlier I was on my Android Google Nexus 7 - Dolphin Browser ... on which it displays  fully translated in English  (subsequently checked and also does in Android Chrome).
 
Yet laptop PC Chrome - it's all Greek to me :)
 
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Re: Guitar 2015/05/31 12:02:31 (permalink)
So, ah, what?
gswitz
Greek?





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Re: Guitar 2015/05/31 12:09:57 (permalink)
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Sonar Platinum comes with AAS Strum Acoustic Session Edition ... upgradable to the new GS-2 at AAS for $99(?).(updated and merged with their electric guitar product).
 
TTS-1, also included has some guitars.
 
Technique is potentially an issue with replicating guitar on a DAW. That's what AAS Strum attempts to address.
 
I haven't tried it yet but you could try routing Strum through Overloud TH2 to replicate electric guitars.
I also haven't upgraded from X3 yet but understand that there are new Craig Anderton Amp/IR Sims.
 



Thank you, Shellstax.  I am still opening the boxes.  I just saw the Strum feature, and wondered if that would at least get me close to what I wanted.  Sounds like it is.  And thanks also for the amp suggestion. 

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Re: Guitar 2015/05/31 12:14:58 (permalink)
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Going back to when MIDI started guitar patches were pretty weak, but these days there are all sorts of guitar sounds out there to get. Good luck.


Thanks, BiP.  I even see wind instruments slowly improving.  So far the most consistent I have seen in various suites are flute, muted trumpet and English horn - the former two more than the latter.

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Re: Guitar 2015/05/31 12:17:07 (permalink)
Again, I say, so, ah, what?

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Re: Guitar 2015/05/31 12:36:04 (permalink)
Re Greek - For me and obvioulsy Gswitz the original post is all in Greek characters.
 
Re getting close to what want ... Yes ... it's supposed to be very good, although this is a cut down version ... and it'll likely take some getting used to to 'really' play it like a guitar. Whilst it has 'the brains' to determine where to sound upstokes etc, I think you still have to trigger mutes, bends etc with split keys sections out the outer octaves of a full(?) or at least larger keyboard.
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Re: Guitar 2015/06/02 20:04:43 (permalink)
Greek. 
 
I see what you're talking about, but have no idea how or why that happened.  I may have made a fat thumb error and hit the wrong font.
  I tried to fix it, and while I did get English characters, the Greek script remained on top.
 
Oh well.
 
I am working on a song now where I only need to add sax and percussion, most likely bongos, tracks right now. 
I will update the thread when I come back around to using an electric guitar synth.
post edited by 1ManMusic - 2015/06/02 20:16:41

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